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I need help in deciding which camera to get because they both seem like really great cameras. I would really appreciate it, if you can give me some pros and cons of both cameras and if you could list some of the functions and capabilities. If you own or had own both cameras can you tell me which one is better for the outdoors, low light conditions and which has better quality and is easy to edit.
 

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Canon is better in low light, while the panny is better in light. The panny has 60p which is nice for filming action events like sports. Canon has a veiw finder, and higher RES touch screen. Editing would be the same with either camcorder as they both record in AVC HD. You really can't go wrong with either cam their both great camcorders.


(Might want to consider looking into the canon M4XX series as there the newer models and have the new HD CMOS chip, which is great in low light.)


Heres a link to a comparison of the two camcorders.
 

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I was facing the same choices as you are....


I decided to go with the HFS30.


TM 900, my fingers are rubbing on the microphone, situated on top.

And the fan, making noise while recording..


Beware, though, the hfs30 highest resolution goes to 1080I, versus 1080P. with the panasonic.


From what I read, for most people, this is a non issue
 

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Originally Posted by Crazzzy Stoner /forum/post/20844913

Canon is better in low light, while the panny is better in light. The panny has 60p which is nice for filming action events like sports. Canon has a veiw finder, and higher RES touch screen. Editing would be the same with either camcorder as they both record in AVC HD. You really can't go wrong with either cam their both great camcorders.





(Might want to consider looking into the canon M4XX series as there the newer models and have the new HD CMOS chip, which is great in low light.)


Heres a link to a comparison of the two camcorders.

Why is it Canon is better in low light, if it uses old 1/2.6-inch 6 MP CMOS,and if you check reviews from last year, Canons weren't good at low light at all?


Buying this cam (S30) seems pointless to me, it's made for people who don't care, and don't read forums.



The HF S30 is Canon's only new 2011 model to continue using the company's 1/2.6-inch CMOS with a 6-megapixel effective pixel count. Canon switched to 1/3-inch CMOS chips for its new HF G10 camcorder, as well as its new line of HF M camcorders.


http://www.camcorderinfo.com/News/Ca...F-R-Series.htm
 

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Buying this cam (S30) seems pointless to me, it's made for people who don't care, and don't read forums.

6MP is good enough for 4:4:4 1080, while 2MP is not enough even for 4:2:0. No wonder the HF S30 produces higher resolution than current Canon cameras, because they need to trade some of this 2MP resolution for color information.
 

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6MP is good enough for 4:4:4 1080, while 2MP is not enough even for 4:2:0. No wonder the HF S30 produces higher resolution than current Canon cameras, because they need to trade some of this 2MP resolution for color information.

Say what? Pixel count has nothing to do with color. Sampling bandwidth would affect color which changes file size or transmission bandwidth but resolution doesn't change. Unless bandwidth is too low then you would drop the resolution so you have enough room for color but that's related to bandwidth in video and file size with still photos.
 

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I like the HFS-30. Wonderful to hold and wonderful video output on my 60" 120hz. Family loves it and the files are easy to process. I tried the TM-900, didnt quite like it; one annoying thing on the HFS-30 though, it has a Mini Advanced Shoe--you have to purchase a mini-to-universal adapter to attach standard accessories that you may already have. Other than that, I love my HFS-30.


I think its just personal preference. You can't go wrong with either. I dont shoot 60p/60i that much, I like the 24F/PF24(60i) output better.
 

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Say what? Pixel count has nothing to do with color.

Depending on what a pixel is. If a pixel is an (R, G, B) triad then 2MP is perfectly fine for FullHD. If a pixel is a single luminance value, then see yourself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayer_filter You can call and ask Canon whether their notion of pixels is the first of the second one. But judging by the resolution, it is likely the second.
 

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Depending on what a pixel is. If a pixel is an (R, G, B) triad then 2MP is perfectly fine for FullHD. If a pixel is a single luminance value, then see yourself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayer_filter You can call and ask Canon whether their notion of pixels is the first of the second one. But judging by the resolution, it is likely the second.

Interesting! Thanks for the link. Now I have to wonder what is the best color mode to use on my single CMOS Panasonic TM90. It defaults to RGB but it also has an extended color range setting. I don't know if its 4.4.4 or 4.2.0. Will resolution be affected?
 

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Is absolutely TM900, support the night function, built-in flash is taken, but the price is a bit expensive.
 

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Is absolutely TM900, support the night function, built-in flash is taken, but the price is a bit expensive.

The canon HF-S30 has built in flash and a built in light too. If your planning on setting the camcorder on auto most of the time the canon also has "instant auto focus" (2 focus sensors) which is nice feature. The panny has an optional 3D lens you can buy so you could shoot in 3D.


I've heard about some pannys have problems with zoom and fan noise from some owners not all.


Both cams are great, i personally like the canon better...
 

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The videos I have seen on youtube show that the canon doesn't look smooth when looking from down to up or side to side. I could be wrong because the people could have edited it wrong or could have messed up in the settings. If you own the canon does it have that problem or is it real smooth?
 
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