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Carada has just introduced a new auto masking system that will fit over any of their screen's.Check their website for details,It really looks good.BOB
 

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I love my Carada Criterion 100in. screen, but, they are asking four times the cost of the screen for their masking system. I will keep looking...
 

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My thoughts exactly, Porshe. I have not yet purchased a Carada screen, but I will be doing so before the year is over and I've already priced it. With shipping, it'll cost $1,050 for the 134" BW Criterion 1.78:1 screen. The masking system for the screen of my size is very nearly $3,000. Three times the price of the screen itself!


While I think it's an ingenious invention and I would kill to have it... I'm not about to pay 3x the price of the screen itself for a tiny bit of black velvet to cover a portion of the screen to hide the black bars. Leave the black bars there for free, I say! As much as I would love this invention for my future screen from Carada, I wouldn't even pay $1,000 for it (which is what the screen itself costs). I would however be willing to pay half of what the screen costs, or $500.


I think they need to re-evaluate their prices on these masking systems.
 

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In the world of masking systems, the price they give as example is reasonable. Compare their (masking) pricing to Dalite, SMX or Stewart....they are the bargin leader in comparison...similar to the prices of their screens vs the others.


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In the world of masking systems, the price they give as example is reasonable. Compare their (masking) pricing to Dalite, SMX or Stewart....they are the bargin leader in comparison...similar to the prices of their screens vs the others.


Ron

You are so right Ron.Carada's masking is quite cheap compared to the others by far.Their is alot to a masking system with all the motors and parts and remote control.Maybe they can design a screen with the masking together and get the price down.But look at a stewart screen with masking $15k,So $3.5K is not bad really.Myself I use a $25 piece of black velet and mask the top part of my 110inBW carada and move my image down to the bottom.So their are no black bars.I know I am cheap.But it does look good and I saved $2.5k
 

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its a very trick setup, but agreed its expensive, I would love to own it though but I cant see that kind of cash for it.
 

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This system looks really good, where are you guys finding the pricing I can't seem to find it on their site.
 

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This system looks really good, where are you guys finding the pricing I can't seem to find it on their site.

Within the description page is an example of what it would cost for a 110" diag. masking system....no other prices are given.
 

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Within the description page is an example of what it would cost for a 110" diag. masking system....no other prices are given.

Excellent! Found it, thanks. Price appears more than reasonable for what appears to be an attractive functional product, I especially like the flexibility of the preset and variable masking feature.
 

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It's a nice looking setup and I like the price compared to others. I'd like to see them do a horizontal masking system for CIH at the same price point. While nice, paying that much for a masking system that just covers the black bars and ends up with an image smaller than the previews/menu seems sort of anti-climactic.
 

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What ever happened to HTIQ? Didn't they make inexpensive masking systems?


Yep. Take a look at their new CIH masking system:

http://htiq.com/


I'm considering one myself. Although I have to say, as someone who appreciates masking, that the Carada system is lust-worthy.
 

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Carada has just introduced a new auto masking system that will fit over any of their screen's.Check their website for details,It really looks good.BOB

Real pricey though. That's as much or more than another projector.


But I like it -- very cool.
 

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Hey guys, thanks for all the compliments! We put an enormous amount of time and energy into the design of the Masquerade (not to mention money), and I'm glad it shows. We figured there might be some sticker shock, but only for customers who haven't shopped for masking systems before. Granted the Masquerade isn't cheap by any measure, but as others have pointed out, it is extremely competitive when compared to other masking systems on the market. When another company recently announced their masking system, naturally I wondered what kind of competition they would prove to be. Needless to say, any concerns I had fell by the wayside when I saw that their systems would START at 9 GRAND! And even that is chump change when compared to Stewart's and Screen Research's very nice top-of-the-line systems which are in the range of $25,000-$30,000!



By the way Richard, you win the prize for the coolest tag-line:


"The Carada Masquerade: Lust-worthy" Can we use that?



David Giles

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Ok I think it is a very reasonable price and intend to be the first guinea pig.
 

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David,


What are the overall dimensions of the system for a 110" screen?


Thanks


Edit: Intuition now tells me about 12.5 inches larger than viewable dimensions of the screen.
 

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Hugh, the outside dimensions of a Masquerade made to fit over a 110" diagonal 16:9 screen would be 108.4" wide by 66.5" high by 3.75" deep.


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By the way Richard, you win the prize for the coolest tag-line:


"The Carada Masquerade: Lust-worthy" Can we use that?



David Giles

Carada, Inc.

But of course. Feel free to send me a Masquerade system in lieu of my usual fees.



Seriously, I find your system very exciting. I'm so in to the visual benefits of masking I bet I'm the only guy you can find who has been masking his plasma screen for 2:35:1 content for years.
I knew that when I moved up to front projection there was no question I'd go for a masking system of some kind. Then of course there is the heart-stopping prices of the typical masking systems from you-know-who. Sort of reminds me a little of how I feel when I go to buy pop-corn and a drink at the movies:


Cashier: "That will be $27.00 sir."


Me: "You know, next time you ask for that kind of money, would you mind holding a gun on me? It would just make the transaction feel a little more rational on my end, thanks."


I am considering some more do-it-yourself versions, but yours is a very slick solution for avoiding truly insane prices while getting a professional aesthetic. As it happens, Carada is in my top 2 screen manufacturers I'm likely choosing between for my new HT, so to see Carada introduce a masking system is great.


My only issue is I've been looking at a Constant Image Height set-up, so masking from the sides is also an issue. Any plans to introduce CIH-style side masking? Also, can your current masking system work on non-Carada screens?


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You're right Rich, I haven't heard of too many folks masking their plasma. But hey, you obviously understand the benefits of masking!



Yes the Masquerade will work with most fixed frame screens on the market including Stewart's Luxus and Luxus Deluxe Screenwall; Da-Lite's Permwall, DaSnap, and Cinema Contour; Draper's Cineperm and Clarion (but definitely NOT the Onyx); and Vutec's Silverstar, Vu-Easy, and Vision XWF. Basically the screen's frame members need to be no wider than 3.25" and protrude from the wall no more than 2".


We don't have a CIH system in the works right now, but we're getting a LOT of questions about that, so there's a good chance we'll focus on that at some point in the future (couldn't begin to say when it might happen though).


David Giles

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