[curlyjive]

I have seen that the specs for Casino Royale will include uncompressed 5.1 PCM.


Will it also have the normal DD 5.1 track as well? Is it safe to assume that most BD that contain an uncompressed track will continue to have the standard DD 5.1 track for older receiver owners?

 

[Taha24]

I dont think we will EVER see a BD released with only an uncompressed 5.1 PCM track as the only option for audio.

 

[curlyjive]



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Originally Posted by Taha24 /forum/post/0


I dont think we will EVER see a BD released with only an uncompressed 5.1 PCM track as the only option for audio.

Hope not, at least not this soon. But the release specs didn't mention anything other than uncompressed audio, so I wasn't sure if it is just implied that will include the compressed track as well. IS that part of the BD spec....to include both?

 

[curlyjive]



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Originally Posted by benes /forum/post/0


Every PCM title has a AC3 backup track. There is no reason to believe this will change anytime soon.

Thanks, that's the re-assurance I was looking for. A HDMI receiver is in my future...next year most likely. But for now, I need to use optical from my PS3 to hold me over.

 

[darinp2]



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Originally Posted by Taha24 /forum/post/0


I dont think we will EVER see a BD released with only an uncompressed 5.1 PCM track as the only option for audio.

From the box it looks like "The Sopranos" was released this way as far as English. They should include a DD track though and I would expect that from "Casino Royale".


--Darin

 

[Taha24]



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Originally Posted by darinp2 /forum/post/0


From the box it looks like "The Sopranos" was released this way as far as English. They should include a DD track though and I would expect that from "Casino Royale".


--Darin

I actually saw the back of The Sopranos box today and it had the logo's for DD and DD+.

 

[Maxx_75]

Some releases have the DTS Master Audio. Cool how you get the core from it.

 

[darinp2]



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Originally Posted by Taha24 /forum/post/0


I actually saw the back of The Sopranos box today and it had the logo's for DD and DD+.

Sounds like you are talking about the HD DVD. I was referring to the Blu-ray version. Also, I believe it has a DD track for Spanish, just not for English.


--Darin

 

[ckenisell]

I have The Sopranos Season Six Part 1 Box Set and I can confirm it does NOT have an English DD or DD+ 5.1 audio track. It sucks because I have to watch it in stereo since I don't have an HDMI connection on my receiver. Picture quality is awesome though.

 

[curlyjive]



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Originally Posted by darinp2 /forum/post/0


Sounds like you are talking about the HD DVD. I was referring to the Blu-ray version. Also, I believe it has a DD track for Spanish, just not for English.


--Darin

So are you saying that the BD version has a DD track, or just PCM for the Sopranos?


If it only has PCM, are there other titles on BD that ONLY have PCM with no DD?

 

[DaveFi]

US Kung-Fu Hustle only had a uncompressed Cantonese track. Bastards. Not like there isn't enough room to stick a 5.1DD Cantonese track in there.

 

[curlyjive]

HMmmm...very odd that a mainstream release like the Sopranos would not have the DD track. Did they try to fit too many episodes on one disc and not have room?

Did they use Mpeg-2

 

[Taha24]



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Originally Posted by darinp2 /forum/post/0


Sounds like you are talking about the HD DVD. I was referring to the Blu-ray version. Also, I believe it has a DD track for Spanish, just not for English.


--Darin

I was actually talking about the Blu-Ray version, but with the post after yours, seems you were right. Though I did see the logo's on the box, I dont know why they are on there.

 

[ckenisell]



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Originally Posted by curlyjive /forum/post/0


HMmmm...very odd that a mainstream release like the Sopranos would not have the DD track. Did they try to fit too many episodes on one disc and not have room?

Did they use Mpeg-2

It's VC-1 and only 3 episodes per disc (it's a 4 disc box set.)

 

[curlyjive]



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Originally Posted by ckenisell /forum/post/0


It's VC-1 and only 3 episodes per disc (it's a 4 disc box set.)

What rationale would there be then not to include the DD track?

 

[ckenisell]

Hey, at least they got uncompressed PCM on there. I'm happy about that. If they keep doing that and the PQ is still fantastic, I'll buy.

 

[curlyjive]



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Originally Posted by ckenisell /forum/post/0


Hey, at least they got uncompressed PCM on there. I'm happy about that. If they keep doing that and the PQ is still fantastic, I'll buy.

I wouldn't care if if I had an HDMI receiver. But since I don't, it is an issue for me.


Though many have said 2.0 PCM decoded with PLII can sound very good!

 

[ckenisell]



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Originally Posted by curlyjive /forum/post/0


I wouldn't care if if I had an HDMI receiver. But since I don't, it is an issue for me.

I hear ya and I feel your pain because I don't have an HDMI receiver either. However, I'm not going to fault them for including uncompressed PCM because that is the superior format. It's now in my hands to upgrade my equipment. I can always buy better equipment. I can't always count on studios to re-release their software when newer technology becomes more mainstreams. Basically, the fault in now owned by me and not the studio. I like that better because I am in control of my faults, but I can't change the studios faults.


Would it have been nice to have a DD track? Absolutely! Would I trade a DD track for better picture quality? Absolutely!

 

[curlyjive]



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Originally Posted by ckenisell /forum/post/0


I hear ya and I feel your pain because I don't have an HDMI receiver either. However, I'm not going to fault them for including uncompressed PCM because that is the superior format. It's now in my hands to upgrade my equipment. I can always buy better equipment. I can't always count on studios to re-release their software when newer technology becomes more mainstreams. Basically, the fault in now owned by me and not the studio. I like that better because I am in control of my faults, but I can't change the studios faults.


Would it have been nice to have a DD track? Absolutely! Would I trade a DD track for better picture quality? Absolutely!

WIth BD50, that trade-off should not be needed.

I think legacy support is important for BD to take off. Most people are going to have a hard enough time spending money for a BD player....only then to be told to upgrade their receivers?


Of course, I know this, but the average person (who needs to buy into HD in order for it to thrive) does not.


For me, I have a Denon 2802, and I really don't want to step down from that quality level....but the 2807 is like $1000!! This year I bought a 61 1080p DLP, XA1, PS3....oh yeah, and a house

 

[ckenisell]



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Originally Posted by curlyjive /forum/post/0


WIth BD50, that trade-off should not be needed.

I agree. However, there is three hours of video, uncompressed PCM, alternate spanish DD and, sometimes, a commentary track. I still think a BD50 should be able to hold all of those items. Especially since the video is VC-1. However, I'm not sure if this box set includes four BD25's or four BD50's. How does one find this out?

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Originally Posted by curlyjive /forum/post/0


I think legacy support is important for BD to take off. Most people are going to have a hard enough time spending money for a BD player....only then to be told to upgrade their receivers?

You know, I think you're right. It is important for BD to take off, but it sucks for those of us that have already bought into the support.