[toolwarrior]

I was looking into the 2009 CES show and who was going to be there. I came across this on Youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHIf0jGrxt4


Check out the larger OLED TV at the 24 second point in the video.

Still small by LCD and Plasma standards, but they are coming up in size.


Anyone have additional info on the new Plasma's and LCD's that will be revealed?

 

[TVbc]

thanks for the link (you'd think ces could get the sound right, eh?)


there's a thread on the lcd panel forum that has some info on the samsungs. and someone had some sneak shots of sony setting up at ces showing tons of tv's in boxes....

these guys are practically leak proof i guess

 

[Tommy3141]

Just saw on a CNet review that there is going to be a 55 inch OLED at the show.

 

[Tommy3141]

www dot youtube dot com/watch?v=JoT1YqNIk4U&feature=related

 

[chadmak09]

but I wonder how long it will be before a 50 inch OLED is actually availible to the public?


heck, by that time Plasma and LCD will be at zero idle lum and razor thin.

 

[Patrick.]

I want OLED!

If not for TVs but for computer monitors, at least with TVs we have many choices.. but when it comes to a monitor you have once choice, LCD. The day a 30" OLED computer monitor comes out for ~$2000 or less I'm jumping all over it. Perfect contrast, viewing angles, uniformity a computer/TV enthusiasts dream come true.

 

[chadmak09]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick. /forum/post/15454337


I want OLED!

If not for TVs but for computer monitors, at least with TVs we have many choices.. but when it comes to a monitor you have once choice, LCD. The day a 30" OLED computer monitor comes out for ~$2000 or less I'm jumping all over it. Perfect contrast, viewing angles, uniformity a computer/TV enthusiasts dream come true.

definitly.

It would be nice to have a computer monitor that works well with motion and doesnt fade into a light grey when viewing off angle.

Everytime I use my laptop I hate it, I have to angle the screen perfectly and manuver my head to a sweetspot to be able to see a decent picture

 

[Patrick.]

There are good monitors that have good viewing angles but the contrast is poor, you can get high end NEC monitors with CRT like viewing angles and excellent color/uniformity but with a contrast ratio of like 800:1

Unfortunately those are rare and expensive and most use Samsung panels with the dreaded contrast shift.

 

[toolwarrior]



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Originally Posted by Tommy3141 /forum/post/15454123


Just saw on a CNet review that there is going to be a 55 inch OLED at the show.

Tommy, your link was not functioning so I attached a working version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoT1Y...eature=related


Correction on your OLED statement. Sounds like Samsung is going to show off a 50" OLED. If you compare that to the small Sony OLED in my first link, it looks as though Samsung will dominate in OLED at the show.


Not to jump to any conclusions, but Sony better get their act together, not just in the technology arena, but in pricing as well, if they don't want to be eating Samsungs dust in the years to come.

 

[tgenius]

But isn't OLED going to be super cost prohibitive for the next 3-5 years? I'm looking forward to the new Sammy's with LED Backlighting..


I saw Dark Knight on my friend's XBR6 today.. it looked fantastic.. but I could see where the Soap Opera effect could get annoying...

 

[toolwarrior]



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Originally Posted by tgenius /forum/post/15458504


But isn't OLED going to be super cost prohibitive for the next 3-5 years?...

Thats what folks thought about LED backlighting at first, too. These babies could be priced anywhere, especially with Samsung appearing to have the larger unit. Lets put it this way. If Samsung priced their 50" 2009 OLED (assuming they bring it fully to market) just higher than their 950 series, would you go for it? Heck, for OLED, I would pay upwards of $6K for something that seems to cure many of todays ills with LCD.

I do have one concern about OLED and that is the expected life. One drawback I recall in my research is short lifespan of Organics. They will need to overcome this problem with a lifespan of at least 4 to 5 years.

 

[raftermanfmj]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick. /forum/post/15454337


I want OLED!

If not for TVs but for computer monitors, at least with TVs we have many choices.. but when it comes to a monitor you have once choice, LCD. The day a 30" OLED computer monitor comes out for ~$2000 or less I'm jumping all over it. Perfect contrast, viewing angles, uniformity a computer/TV enthusiasts dream come true.

Why would viewing angle be an issue with pc screens? Do you not normally sit right in front of it?

 

[Patrick.]



Quote:
Originally Posted by raftermanfmj /forum/post/15461076


Why would viewing angle be an issue with pc screens? Do you not normally sit right in front of it?

Depending on the panel most actually wash out even head on. This is what 99.9% of upscale (24"+) monitors (and TVs) use or at least a variant of this technology

Quote:
MVA (Multi-Domain Vertical Alignment)


MVA panels offer typically very good black depth, a notch above TN Film. The viewing angles are also greatly improved, and are wide in both horizontal and vertical fields. Colour depth is nearly always a true 8-bit, with no need for FRC methods. Colour accuracy is very good, and movie playback is probably the smoothest and least prone to ‘noise' on MVA based matrices. Response times are decent with modern overdrive methods, but not quite as fast as TN Film panels. MVA screens are considered very good all round. Viewing angles are slightly inferior to IPS panels however, and a characteristic contrast shift can be seen as you move your line of sight off-centre. This is why IPS panels are considered more suitable for colour critical work, and are more widely used in professional display ranges. Premium-MVA (P-MVA) and Super-MVA (S-MVA) are variants of this technology and represent the modern generation of such panels. Advanced–MVA (AMVA ) is very new, and is designed to offer the next generation of improvements in this technology.

A good test is this site http://www.hardforum.com/ Try it on your monitor and see what happens with the gray background...

 

[talbain]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick. /forum/post/15454337


I want OLED!

If not for TVs but for computer monitors, at least with TVs we have many choices.. but when it comes to a monitor you have once choice, LCD. The day a 30" OLED computer monitor comes out for ~$2000 or less I'm jumping all over it. Perfect contrast, viewing angles, uniformity a computer/TV enthusiasts dream come true.

and the lifespan of an oled panel doesn't bother you?

 

[Patrick.]

Considering I change displays practically every year, no. If they are reliable for at least 2-3 years that's fine with me, not like there is any resale on electronics anyways.

 

[Shawn1]

I have this weird feeling that no OLED video displays will be coming to the marketplace this year (2009), and only in 2010 we will be able to buy OLED TVs and/or PC monitors bigger than 11 inches.


I hope I'm wrong.

 

[Patrick.]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Shawn1 /forum/post/15469547


I have this weird feeling that no OLED video displays will be coming to the marketplace this year (2009), and only in 2010 we will be able to buy OLED TVs and/or PC monitors bigger than 11 inches.


I hope I'm wrong.

Me too, we've been waiting for this for about half a decade now

 

[xrox]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick. /forum/post/15469567


Me too, we've been waiting for this for about half a decade now

For me it has been 10 years (I've actually worked on OLED for a bit). Most people don't see it but the headlines about OLED developments seem to get recycled over and over again with little to show in actuality. Product release is the only thing that is going to excite me anymore.

 

[whityfrd]

so oled is the savior to lcd? how would it compare pq wise to the current kuros?

 

[Patrick.]

It's all theoretical but I think it's safe to say that an OLED, if it performed well in the right areas, would stomp a Kuro. Think of an LCD with all the plasma advantages and none of the negatives. No ABL (or optional) no Dithering the 2 big things that kill plasma for computer use. Plasma might hide dithering well in actual content but try viewing a gradient on these things