[JHBrandt]

Good to hear. Apparently the recording function in the CM-7003 works fine. It's no TiVo, but at least it has basic VCR-like recording capability. Very strange that CM removed the last two pages covering recording from the manual.

But since the HomeWorX HW-150PVR is nearly identical except for the remote, you can use their manual: http://www.mediasonic.ca/files/1382658092_1.pdf. To be blunt it's not very good and there are some mistakes (for instance it says to press Play to activate time-shifting; in fact you press Pause, which makes more sense) but at least it makes some attempt to explain the box's recording and time-shifting functions. (Note: you'll probably need a HDD rather than a USB stick for time-shifting. The high rate of simultaneous reads and writes is just too much for most USB sticks to keep up with.)

Edit: Oops - that's the French manual! Here's a link to the English one.... https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9815108/HW-150PVR Download/HW-150PVR Manual.pdf. I have no idea why they put the English one on Dropbox but hosted the French one on their own site.

 

[ChiwaukeeOTA]

Hw-150 pvr

Thanks! Does the Book function work? Will it schedule a recording, then record the show if an HDD is attached?

"Book Function"? I'm not sure what that means..

Edit: My HW-150PVR (V2.1 firmware) is definitely gray. I think you had it right the first time, because the screen with the blue cast shows colored buttons a la the CM-7003 remote.

No, I'm sorry to say my menus are definitely grey on the HW-150

BTW, that's a big difference in signal (82% vs. 45%) for what appears to be the same channel on virtually identical boxes

The reason for the difference is that the 45% is a Milwaukee signal is arriving on the back of my South pointing Chicago array, 82% is the Milwaukee signal on the North pointing (Milwaukee) array. I use different STBs for each direction, because combining the signals weaken the signals.

You should see an "Edit" button at the bottom of each of your own posts.

Funny, I just don't see the "Edit" function on my posts.

 

[rabbit73]

But since the HomeWorX HW-150PVR is nearly identical except for the remote, you can use their manual: http://www.mediasonic.ca/files/1382658092_1.pdf

Edit: Oops - that's the French manual! Here's a link to the English one.... https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9815108/HW-150PVR Download/HW-150PVR Manual.pdf. I have no idea why they put the English one on Dropbox but hosted the French one on their own site.

Thanks for the manual links; very helpful.

 

[rabbit73]

Funny, I just don't see the "Edit" function on my posts.

You have to Log In before it will show up. If it doesn't, ask a moderator.

It might be because you don't have enough posts yet.

 

[JHBrandt]

Thanks! Does the Book function work?

"Book Function"? I'm not sure what that means.

In the lower left corner of your CM-7003 guide, it says press OK to "Book" a show (by which they mean, schedule it to be recorded):

Edit: My HW-150PVR (V2.1 firmware) is definitely gray. I think you had it right the first time, because the screen with the blue cast shows colored buttons a la the CM-7003 remote.

No, I'm sorry to say my menus are definitely grey on the HW-150
View attachment 1826313

OK, that post left me more than ever. I said, "My HW-150PVR is definitely gray," and you said, "No, my menus are definitely grey on the HW-150." Are "gray" and "grey" different colors to you?

Let me rephrase my earlier point. Rabbit73's screen shots of his CM-7003 all have a faint blue cast, and you posted this image

also with a blue cast. You originally identified it as the CM-7003, and I think you were correct because the Page Down and Page Up functions are labeled with colored squares, indicating you press the corresponding colored buttons on the remote to page. The CM-7003 has colored buttons on its remote; the HW-150PVR doesn't. But then in the next post, you said that was the HW-150PVR screen and the grey/gray one was the CM-7003! So I thought you had it right the first time: the HW-150PVR screens are grey/gray and the CM-7003's are blue.

But just now, you posted a screen shot from your HomeWorX HW-150PVR:

We know it's from your HomeWorX (because it clearly says "HOMEWORX" right there in the lower left corner) with a blue cast and transparency (you can see hints of the overlaid video through the menu)! I've never seen a HomeWorX firmware version that supported either a different menu color or transparency, until now. What firmware version does your HW-150PVR have? I may have to beg for a copy over on the HW-150 thread

 

[JHBrandt]

The reason for the difference is that the 45% is a Milwaukee signal is arriving on the back of my South pointing Chicago array, 82% is the Milwaukee signal on the North pointing (Milwaukee) array. I use different STBs for each direction, because combining the signals weaken the signals.

OK, that makes sense.

Funny, I just don't see the "Edit" function on my posts.

I wonder if it's one of the AVSForum restrictions that you can't edit posts until you've posted enough times? They have a number of similar restrictions in place; e.g., you can't post links, PM users, etc. until you've posted enough (presumably to deter spammers). I don't know why they wouldn't let you edit either, but who knows?

 

[rabbit73]

When you press Book, this is what you see:

and then press 1 for Add
Enter date and times
Change View to Record

To playback, go to USB > Multimedia > PVR

Select recording to play

I see pixelation on playback that wasn't in the original broadcast

Maybe a bad USB drive, but I probably need a new faster USB drive or an external Hard Disk.

 

[JHBrandt]

When you press Book, this is what you see:

Uh-oh: that's a bug!

On the HW-150 it goes straight to this screen, with the correct start/end times already filled in from the guide:

Several versions of iView firmware had the same bug. It took iView nearly a year to release corrected firmware.

I see pixilation on playback that wasn't in the original broadcast

Maybe a bad USB drive, but I probably need a new faster USB drive or an external Hard Disk.

The USB stick is probably just too slow. Even if it's USB 3.0, a lot are still too slow to write. (USB 2.0 speeds are more than enough, but flash drives are commonly much slower at writing than reading.)

 

[rabbit73]

Uh-oh: that's a bug!

I think the way I interpreted the 7003 manual is the bug.
Page 12
Programmed Time Recording
Option 1: Press GUIDE key on the remote.
Option 2: Press GUIDE key, then press the INFO key to go into the PVR Schedule.

With Option 1 you only need to press OK to Book.
With Option 2 you have to press 1 first.

Oh, I think I got another thing wrong:
it's pixelation, not pixilation

But at this point I am pixilated.


http://grammarist.com/spelling/pixelated-pixilated/

 

[ChiwaukeeOTA]

Thanks! Does the Book function work? Will it schedule a recording, then record the show if an HDD is attached?
Edit: My HW-150PVR (V2.1 firmware) is definitely gray. I think you had it right the first time, because the screen with the blue cast shows colored buttons a la the CM-7003 remote. BTW, that's a big difference in signal (82% vs. 45%) for what appears to be the same channel on virtually identical boxes

You should see an "Edit" button at the bottom of each of your own posts.

In the lower left corner of your CM-7003 guide, it says press OK to "Book" a show (by which they mean, schedule it to be recorded):

OK, that post left me more than ever. I said, "My HW-150PVR is definitely gray," and you said, "No, my menus are definitely grey on the HW-150." Are "gray" and "grey" different colors to you?

Let me rephrase my earlier point. Rabbit73's screen shots of his CM-7003 all have a faint blue cast, and you posted this image

also with a blue cast. You originally identified it as the CM-7003, and I think you were correct because the Page Down and Page Up functions are labeled with colored squares, indicating you press the corresponding colored buttons on the remote to page. The CM-7003 has colored buttons on its remote; the HW-150PVR doesn't. But then in the next post, you said that was the HW-150PVR screen and the grey/gray one was the CM-7003! So I thought you had it right the first time: the HW-150PVR screens are grey/gray and the CM-7003's are blue.

But just now, you posted a screen shot from your HomeWorX HW-150PVR:

We know it's from your HomeWorX (because it clearly says "HOMEWORX" right there in the lower left corner) with a blue cast and transparency (you can see hints of the overlaid video through the menu)! I've never seen a HomeWorX firmware version that supported either a different menu color or transparency, until now. What firmware version does your HW-150PVR have? I may have to beg for a copy over on the HW-150 thread

Hi and Good Morning,
Here's some firmware info for you.

I see the confusion now. Some CM7003 screens have a blue cast, some grey. Some HW-150 screens have a blue cast, some gray

My apologies!

CM 7003:

HW-150:

Lots more channel info on HW-150.

Once again, sorry about the confusion on my part.

Did I mention that the two remotes have no control over the opposite STBs?

Some times I pick up the wrong remote and wonder why my remote isn't working, oops!

The aim is critical though, you virtually have to be right in front of either box to get results.

 

[ChiwaukeeOTA]

Hi and Good Morning,
Here's some firmware info for you.

View attachment 1828889

View attachment 1828905

I see the confusion now. Some CM7003 screens have a blue cast, some grey. Some HW-150 screens have a blue cast, some gray

My apologies!

CM 7003:

View attachment 1828897

HW-150:

View attachment 1828921

Lots more channel info on HW-150.

Once again, sorry about the confusion on my part.

Did I mention that the two remotes have no control over the opposite STBs?

Some times I pick up the wrong remote and wonder why my remote isn't working, oops!

The aim is critical though, you virtually have to be right in front of either box to get results.

BTW, how do you guys get the screenshots to show up in full size?

 

[pachinko]

BTW, how do you guys get the screenshots to show up in full size?

There are a few ways.

1. Upload the image to an image hosting service (one free host is tinypic.com), then use the URL it provides with the Insert Image tool. Of course, if the hosting service deletes the image, it will no longer be available for AVS Forum to show.

2. Upload the image as an attachment to the post. Then scroll down to where the attachment is listed above the "Manage Attachments" button, right-click on the attachment and click "Copy Link Location" (or whatever your web browser calls it). Use that URL with the Insert Image tool. This is probably the easiest method. Here's an example (note the image also shows as an attachment):

​

3. Use the BB Code "Attach". First upload the image as an attachment, then get the ID from the attachment and use the ID with the BB Code in the desired location within the post. For example, the 2nd attachment to this post (which you won't see) has a URL of http://www.avsforum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1829089&stc=1&d=1481728050, and within the URL is "attachmentid=1829089". Take the numeric portion and use it with the AttachmentID BB code. For example [attach]1829073[/attach], and that image appears within the post as shown below, with the attachment image hidden. Unfortunately, it appears at the attachment size, not full size. However, if clicked, or Ctrl-Clicked, the image shows full size.

​

4. Another method, which I've been thinking about using, is to start a thread in the Post Testing Area, upload images to a post in that thread whenever needed, acquire the full size URL, and use that URL with the Insert Image tool. This method is much like method 1, but with the advantage that the image is stored with AVS Forum, and you don't have to worry about an image host deleting the image (unless AVS Forum ever deletes your testing post).

 

[rabbit73]

I see the confusion now. Some CM7003 screens have a blue cast, some grey. Some HW-150 screens have a blue cast, some gray.

If I leave the white balance on my camera set to AUTO, my images are too blue. I set the white balance to CLOUDY (overcast) and gray comes out gray instead of blue.

 

[rabbit73]

BTW, how do you guys get the screenshots to show up in full size?

The method I use is similar to method 2 by pachinko.

After adding the attachment, I click on the link above MANAGE ATTACHMENTS to open it in a new tab. If it looks OK in the new tab, I copy and paste the attachment URL from the address box at the top of the browser, add the BB code for image, and insert that in the text box where I want the image to show.

For this forum, the BB codes are lower case, with the exception of quotes of another post headed by its poster, and URLs of images from an image host.

 

[pachinko]

For this forum, the BB codes are lower case, with the exception of quotes of another post headed by its poster, and URLs of images from an image host.

In all of my tests, the case of the BB codes does not matter, at least not for AVS Forum!

...
3. Use the BB Code "Attach". First upload the image as an attachment, then get the ID from the attachment and use the ID with the BB Code in the desired location within the post. For example, the 2nd attachment to this post (which you won't see) has a URL of http://www.avsforum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1829089&stc=1&d=1481728050, and within the URL is "attachmentid=1829089". Take the numeric portion and use it with the AttachmentID BB code. For example [attach]1829073[/attach], and that image appears within the post as shown below, with the attachment image hidden. Unfortunately, it appears at the attachment size, not full size. However, if clicked, or Ctrl-Clicked, the image shows full size.
...

I just noticed that another way to get the attachmentid, for the [attach] BB code, is to right click on the thumbnail wherever it appears (the Drag and Drop File Upload area, or as the attachment at the bottom of the post). For example, hover over this attachment, and the attachmentid is revealed by the browser as 1829585. Right-Click to copy the URL as shown in the following image.

​

 

[rabbit73]

In all of my tests, the case of the BB codes does not matter, at least not for AVS Forum!

My img will not show in the post if I use upper case. The forum FAQs say use lower case, which gave me a clue why they were not showing.

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/305-site-faqs-tutorials/1549617-frequently-asked-questions.html

Right-Click to copy the URL as shown in the following image.

My browser (IE 11) will not do that, but it will show properties.

I'm happy with the way it works for me.

ChiwaukeeOTA is the one who is having the problem.

 

[pachinko]

My img will not show in the post if I use upper case. The forum FAQs say use lower case, which gave me a clue why they were not showing.

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/305-site-faqs-tutorials/1549617-frequently-asked-questions.html

My browser (IE 11) will not do that, but it will show properties.

Hmm... I searched the FAQ page for "case" and found no mention of which case to use. It shows the BB codes in lowercase (and so does the forum's BB code page), but doesn't say they must be lowercase. That aside, when the Insert Image tool is used, the code it produces is in uppercase. You can see the code it uses by clicking the "Switch Editor Mode" icon in the upper right corner of the editor window. If uppercase BB codes work for Insert Image, they must also work for you using BB codes. My guess is you forgot the forward slash in the closing tag, which definitely prevents the image from appearing.

Here's the code produced by the Insert Image tool (uppercase), and the image it produces.
[IMG]http://www.avsforum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1830265&d=1481761890[/IMG]

Here's the same BB coding in lowercase, and the image it produces.
[img]http://www.avsforum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1830265&d=1481761890[/img]

I recommend creating a thread in the Post Testing Area and run some test.

 

[JHBrandt]

Hi and Good Morning,
Here's some firmware info for you.

View attachment 1828889

View attachment 1828905

Thanks. I do have a copy of HW-150PVR V5.0 firmware. It wouldn't work on my older HW-150PVR (had to revert to V2.1), but it DID work on an iView 3200! (I switched the 3200 back to iView firmware when they finally put out a version with fewer bugs.)

BTW, Mediasonic has a V5.3 now. It fixes a few bugs in V5.0. You may want to email Mediasonic support at support(AT)mlglobal.net (replace (AT) with @) and ask them for an update. Send them a photo of the serial number tag on the back of your box to prove you have the right HW-150PVR for V5.3 (different serial number series require different firmware updates). More info at http://www.avsforum.com/forum/42-hd...ort-discussion-post47773393.html#post47773393

I see the confusion now. Some CM7003 screens have a blue cast, some grey. Some HW-150 screens have a blue cast, some gray

My apologies!

CM 7003:

View attachment 1828897

HW-150:

View attachment 1828921

Lots more channel info on HW-150.

It can take some time for the extended descriptions to show up on these boxes. But there have also been some firmware bugs in this area. (In fact, there's a bug in the HW-150PVR EPG in V5.0; sometimes a few shows will be garbled. In your screen shot, it looks like the HW-150PVR put two or three shows' descriptions together into one! That's one of the fixes in V5.3.)

Did I mention that the two remotes have no control over the opposite STBs?

Some times I pick up the wrong remote and wonder why my remote isn't working, oops!

No, but it makes sense. The HW-150PVR, HW-180STB, and iView all use different, incompatible remotes, so I'm not surprised the CM-7003 remote is different as well.

That can be an advantage if you need two tuners in the same room. If you got two HW-150PVRs, you'd have a problem because they use the same remote. Trying to control one, you'd inadvertently control the other as well. Same with two CM-7003s, of course; but if instead you get one of each, you won't have that problem since they use different remotes.

If I leave the white balance on my camera set to AUTO, my images are too blue. I set the white balance to CLOUDY (overcast) and gray comes out gray instead of blue.

I was starting to wonder if the photos might have distorted the colors a bit! (And screen reflections can sometimes resemble the transparency feature on the CM-7003, especially if the transparency is set to a low value.)

 

[JHBrandt]

I think the way I interpreted the 7003 manual is the bug.
Page 12
Programmed Time Recording
Option 1: Press GUIDE key on the remote.
Option 2: Press GUIDE key, then press the INFO key to go into the PVR Schedule.

With Option 1 you only need to press OK to Book.
With Option 2 you have to press 1 first.

Good: that's the way it's supposed to work:

• If you pull up the guide and press Info, you get the list of recordings you've scheduled so far
• If, instead of pressing Info, you select a show and press OK, you should go directly to the Add Event dialog with all the info filled in from the selected show.

 

[rabbit73]

I bought a Sony RM-VLZ620 Learning Remote and taught it some of the basic buttons on the CM-7003 remote. The box is much more responsive to the Sony remote.

CM..........Sony

NA..........DVR
STB.........POWER
CH+........CH+
CH-.........CH-
GUIDE....GUIDE
INFO......INFO
BACK.....RETURN
EXIT......OPTIONS
MENU.....MENU
OK.........OK
Up..........Up
Down.....Down
Left........Left
Right......Right
NA.........INPUT (for TV)

Manual (pp 20-22)
https://docs.sony.com/release/RMVLZ620.pdf