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I've used such devices and unless you have a small 13" SD tube TV I don't think you'd be happy with the picture quality. None that I tested equaled native SD(even composite let alone S-video) resolution lacked and black level was elevated. While those devices do what they are advertised as doing(convert HD HDMI to SD composite or S-video) they do a rather poor job of it.

Thanks for the (albeit disappointing) advice!.....

I had a sense that these devices were inferior, as they're all from obscure companies!

Just curious.....how many of these devices have you tested and which ones?

It's hard (but not impossible) to believe that they're all that bad!
I've tried Lenkeng which outsources for many companies, Atlona and Monoprice(Lenkeng clone) and wasn't satisfied with any. In the end I ended up keeping a Lenkeng clone and while I'm not really satisfied with it's picture quality for the $30 I paid for it I figured it would give me options for HDMI only devices or devices that letterbox SD outputs but not HDMI outputs. My Nikon camera is one such device, while it has composite and HDMI outputs only the HDMI output is full screen 16:9, the composite output is 4:3 letterboxed


I've been told HD Fury makes a higher quality converter but no way I'm going to pay $300 for a converter to use on a $299 device
 

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I've used such devices and unless you have a small 13" SD tube TV I don't think you'd be happy with the picture quality. None that I tested equaled native SD(even composite let alone S-video) resolution lacked and black level was elevated. While those devices do what they are advertised as doing(convert HD HDMI to SD composite or S-video) they do a rather poor job of it.
Thanks for the (albeit disappointing) advice!.....

I had a sense that these devices were inferior, as they're all from obscure companies!

Just curious.....how many of these devices have you tested and which ones?

It's hard (but not impossible) to believe that they're all that bad!
I've tried Lenkeng which outsources for many companies, Atlona and Monoprice(Lenkeng clone) and wasn't satisfied with any. In the end I ended up keeping a Lenkeng clone and while I'm not really satisfied with it's picture quality for the $30 I paid for it I figured it would give me options for HDMI only devices or devices that letterbox SD outputs but not HDMI outputs. My Nikon camera is one such device, while it has composite and HDMI outputs only the HDMI output is full screen 16:9, the composite output is 4:3 letterboxed


I've been told HD Fury makes a higher quality converter but no way I'm going to pay $300 for a converter to use on a $299 device
 

My experience with low-cost converters .
 

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Thank you, Kelson!.....

I didn't state that I had reception problems!!

.....in fact, I recently specified that my signal was 100/100 for the specific recording that was glitchy!......

I'm approx.10 miles from the source (Empire State Building) with a CM combination antenna pointed right at it!.....

could it be too strong a signal?......

shouldn't the DVR+ have some latitude (if, indeed strong signal is potentially an issue)?......

As I've stated before, if it's really that picky about reception (too strong....too weak....has to be just so!), then the unit will alienate far too many people!!

When you say combination antenna what do you mean? Two antennas combined or a VHF/UHF single antenna?
 

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Originally Posted by Kelson  /t/1481183/channel-master-dvr-owners-thread/3150#post_24629872


No, it's an electronic thing. USB powered drives are 2.5" low-power laptop drives. 1TB is very common size but there are also some 2TB models on the market. 3TB drives are 3.5" and all require more power than a typical USB port can supply so they are externally powered.

Which is what I've already stated. A good possibility is inadequate power for a USB powered HDD that could cause intermittent buffer issues.


What is more important to you? Taking steps to try and rectify your problems to attain a satisfactorily functioning DVR+ or continuing to endlessly post the same problem and criticisms over and over and over. People lose interest in trying to help when the recipient resists spending some time to help themselves.


Light the candle -- stop cursing the darkness.

AMEN to that!!!!
 

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my stuttering and freeze during playback issues began with fw upgrade. I've posted many times already, when this was not hot topic. And of course CM said they had not heard of it....and asked me to keep track of which channel was being recorded.


But to summarize once again, when I replaced the SG 3TB HDD, trouble ceased and all has been fine for over a month.

There is a slight drop audio out at times during normal live viewing, but not too bothersome. And if playback, the audio dropout doesn't exist.


My gut feeling is.....the HDD drive probably didn't need to be replaced, but something in the act of replacing it, caused things to sync up.


Hypothesis is that, during the FW upgrade, I was forced to use mem stick. I unplugged the HDD to insert the stick. (probably while both devices powered up, because instructions said to upgrade with device turned on. Unplugging the HDD just before the upgrade, in my opinion caused the freezing. Did not RE format drive, just returned it to costco for another.


I also have a SG 1TB in the wings, should I need to use it at some point.


I've learned my lesson not to unplug the HDD USB while everything powered.

Next FW upgrade, I will unplug the wifi adaptor instead.....who knows what headache that will bring.
 

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Since the thread looks like it could use a positive experience, I'll share. Some of you may know I have been having reception issues on my local ABC and its sub-channel. My setup is a two antenna setup. I have an Antennas Direct C2V pointed toward all towers except Fox (it is in a completely different direction). I am using an Antennas Direct 91XG to pull in Fox. I just recently had both antennas combined using this custom combiner: http://www.tinlee.com/PDF/AC7-customer%20general%20hookup%20Info.pdf


The combined output ran to a Channel Master 3414 http://www.channelmasterstore.com/Antenna_Cable_TV_Amplifier_p/cm-3414.htm Then that is ran out to 3 TV's.


I had held onto my unit despite getting an RMA while still within the 30 day return period hoping that the AC7 combiner would solve my isssues. Much to my dismay, it didn't help. I contacted support and they had suggested moving one of the antennas a few feet away or adding an amp (even though Steven admitted that Channel Master does not recommend using two antennas with the DVR+). I really didn't know what to make of that suggestion since the Tivo Roamio I have hooked up was not having any of the same problems the DVR+ had with the same setup. I sought help in the antennas sub-forum and while problem solving we tried to eliminate a number of things including that the tuners on the DVR+ were being overpowered. That was not the case with the tuners. So, I remained very frustrated. I knew I couldn't add a preamp to the Antennas Direct C2V (that's where the ABC stations are coming from) because when I ordered the custom AC7 combiner I only had DC pass built in for the Fox station from the Antennas Direct 91XG (because according to my TVFool report it is my weakest station). But, I remembered I had a couple options to try. One was this Wineguard LNA100 amplifier: http://www.winegard.com/offair/amplifiers.php I tried connected the LNA 100 amplifier but that did overpower the tuner as I lost channels. So, I also had this laying around: http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.asp?p=sky38323


I then ran the combined output from both antennas into the Skywalker amp (it has a nob to control amount of amplification; I did not turn it up all the way), then from there to the Channel Master 3414 amp and split to the 3 TV's. Then voila. The ABC channels have stabilized and my Fox station signal quality has jumped up to 84% signal strength and mid 90's signal quality.


It may seem like an odd setup but it seems to be working and has not affected the Roamio's reception in any negative way. And it has fixed ALL reception problems I was having with the DVR+. Very strange but true.
 

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In my case I am using an external POWERED 3.5 7200rpm Seagate hard drive and as I stated before after upgrading to 103r I now have the glitches that slprp1 is talking about and as seen here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvLOY0BIewU

Thanks for taking the time to create the video. A picture is worth a thousand words.


Since one of my Pal DVRs bit the dust, I've been on the fence about purchasing this model. I gotta admit that sorting through all the chaff on this thread has been tiresome. But your video has convinced me to wait a while.
 

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Originally Posted by mulliganman  /t/1481183/channel-master-dvr-owners-thread/3180#post_24631645


When you say combination antenna what do you mean? Two antennas combined or a VHF/UHF single antenna?

A "combination" antenna (singular) is a VHF/UHF antenna.....aka, one antenna.
 

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Originally Posted by slprp1  /t/1481183/channel-master-dvr-owners-thread/3180#post_24632246


A "combination" antenna (singular) is a VHF/UHF antenna.....aka, one antenna.

That's what I was thinking. Just wanted clarification.
 

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my stuttering and freeze during playback issues began with fw upgrade. I've posted many times already, when this was not hot topic. And of course CM said they had not heard of it....and asked me to keep track of which channel was being recorded.


But to summarize once again, when I replaced the SG 3TB HDD, trouble ceased and all has been fine for over a month.

There is a slight drop audio out at times during normal live viewing, but not too bothersome. And if playback, the audio dropout doesn't exist.


My gut feeling is.....the HDD drive probably didn't need to be replaced, but something in the act of replacing it, caused things to sync up.


Hypothesis is that, during the FW upgrade, I was forced to use mem stick. I unplugged the HDD to insert the stick. (probably while both devices powered up, because instructions said to upgrade with device turned on. Unplugging the HDD just before the upgrade, in my opinion caused the freezing. Did not RE format drive, just returned it to costco for another.


I also have a SG 1TB in the wings, should I need to use it at some point.


I've learned my lesson not to unplug the HDD USB while everything powered.

Next FW upgrade, I will unplug the wifi adaptor instead.....who knows what headache that will bring.

FYI.....

My involuntary upgrade was done

via wi-fi.....and I've been having these glitches ever since!!
 

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Originally Posted by Kelson  /t/1481183/channel-master-dvr-owners-thread/3150#post_24630483


Is there anyone out there who is using their DVR+ without an Internet connection and is using strictly PSIP for their guide?

I'm puzzled by the question. If you don't have an Internet connection the only choice you have is PSIP. Correct? So, is the question are they folks using this without an Internet connection?
 

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Originally Posted by P Smith  /t/1481183/channel-master-dvr-owners-thread/3180#post_24632273


may be you got corrupted image ?

I would try re-image back to 101R, then repeat upgrade to 103R from USB storage

Please describe (in detail) how exactly one would revert back to 101R.

Please be very specific. Thank you!
 

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Also.....I'm not absolutely certain that this problem started after the so-called "upgrade"......

Is anyone absolutely certain that these glitches didn't exist (on their unit) prior to the "upgrade"?
 

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Also.....I'm not absolutely certain that this problem started after the so-called "upgrade"......

Is anyone absolutely certain that these glitches didn't exist (on their unit) prior to the "upgrade"?

Have you tried a wall powered HDD yet? Are you going to any time soon. I think a lot of us would like to know if the issue still persists after you have.

Yes, you have seen it on 6 HDD's but they have all been USB powered. The problem might just lay in that alone, not the DVR+.
 
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Please describe (in detail) how exactly one would revert back to 101R.

Please be very specific. Thank you!
kidding ? same as upgrade - it was described at CM site ... use USB stick
 

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Originally Posted by slprp1  /t/1481183/channel-master-dvr-owners-thread/3100_100#post_24632639


Is anyone absolutely certain that these glitches didn't exist (on their unit) prior to the "upgrade"?

The glitches were already there with the original 101R.


The Youtube video with the glitches was uploaded January 20. That's before any upgrade was available.


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Originally Posted by Russell_  /t/1481183/channel-master-dvr-owners-thread/3100_100#post_24632617


I'm puzzled by the question. If you don't have an Internet connection the only choice you have is PSIP. Correct? So, is the question are they folks using this without an Internet connection?
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Originally Posted by Kelson  /t/1481183/channel-master-dvr-owners-thread/3100_100#post_24630483

Is there anyone out there who is using their DVR+ without an Internet connection and is using strictly PSIP for their guide?

Yes, that is the question I'm asking.
 
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