[SimpleTheater]

Am I the only one who thinks this statement makes absolutely no sense:
Parsons and Sheppard said that the lower price point for HD DVD players isn't a hindrance for Blu-ray adoption, and questioned whether Toshiba has a feasible business model when players are sold at a loss.


"It's cheap, but maybe it's cheap for a reason," said Parsons. "If someone wants to spend $499 on a player, they should get a PS3."

Andy Parsons

Promotion Chair of the Blu-ray Disc Association

Senior Vice President of Pioneer
http://www.cepro.com/news/editorial/17508.html


If it's "cheap for a reason" and then for $499 you not only get a BluRay player, but also the most advanced gaming system on the planet - isn't Toshiba OVER charging for an HD-DVD player. And what does that say about $1,000 Pioneer BluRay players.

 

[Alan Gordon]



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Originally Posted by SimpleTheater /forum/post/0


And what does that say about $1,000 Pioneer BluRay players.

What does that say about the $1,000 Sony Blu-Ray player?


~Alan

 

[dialog_gvf]

I sense more cries of arrogance coming.


When the promotion chair of the BDA promotes BD it always gets that reaction. How dare the man do his JOB.


You know, all campaign managers are all bunch of arrogant A-holes. Everyone one of them.


Gary

 

[schroedk]

I agree completely. Plus, Sony's taking a $300 loss on every PS3 (from what I've read); isn't that "selling at a loss", too?


Plus, it's not rocket science why HD-DVD is "cheap for a reason". Get a lot of players into people's homes, let them see how good HD-DVD is (that it can easily hold its own against blu-ray), spread that information word-of-mouth, and by the time the mainstream public decides to go to next-gen discs (1-2 years from now, probably) the HD-DVD library will be tempting enough to take the plunge to HD-DVD vs. Blu-Ray. (FWIW, I have both formats).

 

[Mark0]

Open mouth insert foot.

 

[dialog_gvf]



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Originally Posted by schroedk /forum/post/0


I agree completely. Plus, Sony's taking a $300 loss on every PS3 (from what I've read); isn't that "selling at a loss", too?

Yes. But, overall the loss is determined by recouped royalties and software revenues. There is a clear model for the PS/3. It's one that has worked for them before.


If Toshiba is selling below cost, then they are adding to the R&D deficit. When does the cost of bringing HD DVD to market start to be paid off?


Gary

 

[Kosty]

Well this other CEPRo article gave another perspective.

http://www.cepro.com/news/editorial/17509.html



I do have to give it to Uncle Andy, he is smooooooth....

 

[efranzen]

I swear, this is the only place I've ever been where people complain about being undercharged for items.

 

[darinp2]



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Originally Posted by efranzen /forum/post/0


I swear, this is the only place I've ever been where people complain about being undercharged for items.

I think it is mostly complaining that others are being undercharged.

--Darin

 

[PLC1843]



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Originally Posted by efranzen /forum/post/0


I swear, this is the only place I've ever been where people complain about being undercharged for items.

I noticed that and it is very odd.

 

[Forceflow]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Kosty /forum/post/0


Well this other CEPRo article gave another perspective.

http://www.cepro.com/news/editorial/17509.html



I do have to give it to Uncle Andy, he is smooooooth....

"Blu-ray is backed by Sony, Fox, Disney, Lionsgate, MGM and Buena Vista -- HD DVD is supported by New Line and segments of the porn industry. Warner Bros., Universal and Paramount are supporting both formats."


Universal is not supporting both formats....

 

[Kosty]



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Universal is not supporting both formats....

like I said smoooooooth...

 

[PSound]

Anyone else notice who else was involved in the Blu-Ray interview?

Quote:
Bill Sheppard, senior industry manager for Digital TV at Sun Microsystems

 

[briankmonkey]



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Originally Posted by efranzen /forum/post/0


I swear, this is the only place I've ever been where people complain about being undercharged for items.

Sure the PS3 is worth well more than what Sony charges for it. I don't mind that they've offered it at such an incredilble value at $499 for having an amazing blu-ray player, top of the line gaming console and much more packaged in it

 

[darinp2]



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Originally Posted by Forceflow /forum/post/0


"Blu-ray is backed by Sony, Fox, Disney, Lionsgate, MGM and Buena Vista -- HD DVD is supported by New Line and segments of the porn industry. Warner Bros., Universal and Paramount are supporting both formats."


Universal is not supporting both formats....

And the New Line one is likely wrong also.


--Darin

 

[Jason Unger]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Forceflow /forum/post/0


"Blu-ray is backed by Sony, Fox, Disney, Lionsgate, MGM and Buena Vista -- HD DVD is supported by New Line and segments of the porn industry. Warner Bros., Universal and Paramount are supporting both formats."


Universal is not supporting both formats....

Forceflow - thanks for noticing this. It has been corrected.


Jason

 

[Kosty]



Quote:
Originally Posted by PSound /forum/post/0


Anyone else notice who else was involved in the Blu-Ray interview?

Quote:
Bill Sheppard, senior industry manager for Digital TV at Sun Microsystems

Is that a prominent AVS Blu-ray insider , 2nd from the right?

http://www.cepro.com/slideshows/slide/16908.html

 

[Alan Gordon]



Quote:
Originally Posted by darinp2 /forum/post/0


And the New Line one is likely wrong also.

Right... they're planning on supporting True-HD.


~Alan

 

[darinp2]



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Originally Posted by Jason Unger /forum/post/0


Forceflow - thanks for noticing this. It has been corrected.

I think you should modify the "New Line" in there to say "Universal". It is important to list them on the HD DVD side. I wouldn't list New Line as exclusive though. You could leave them out for now and list them with Warner.


--Darin

 

[Forceflow]



Quote:
Originally Posted by darinp2 /forum/post/0


I think you should modify the "New Line" in there to say "Universal". It is important to list them on the HD DVD side. I wouldn't list New Line as exclusive though. You could leave them out for now and list them with Warner.


--Darin

yes, I agree. New Line isn't exclusive to HD DVD.


BTW, Jason, thanks for the good news scoops. I just noticed I had a type in my sig as it read Superbowl 16 (XVI) instead of 41 (XLI)