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Hi there, I had a tweeter bust on my Onix Bigfoot and have been looking into building something to keep up with my subs and have been doing a lot of research into different designs...


I came across this today and have been trying to find out more about it...has anyone here built one or have any thoughts on the designs and products?? I really appreciate all the help...thanks!!


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I built this speaker a few months ago. I think it is great, at least for my purposes. It is very large and heavy which may or may not be a problem for you. If I had to characterize its sound, I would say it is very clean, detailed and dynamic with the capability of playing very loud without any signs of strain. My idea of loud is about 105 db according to my trusty Radio Shack meter. Just for reference, my room is about 28' x 13' x 8'. I watch and listen to a lot of concerts on my system and the clearwave 4cc is a nice addition to my home theater. There are not very many speakers out there that can do what this does, in my opinion.
 

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I have been interested in the Dynamic Line.

Jed is a real class act, I am sure his speakers are as well.


It is nice to hear you are happy with the center.
 

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I built this speaker a few months ago. I think it is great, at least for my purposes. It is very large and heavy which may or may not be a problem for you. If I had to characterize its sound, I would say it is very clean, detailed and dynamic with the capability of playing very loud without any signs of strain. My idea of loud is about 105 db according to my trusty Radio Shack meter. Just for reference, my room is about 28' x 13' x 8'. I watch and listen to a lot of concerts on my system and the clearwave 4cc is a nice addition to my home theater. There are not very many speakers out there that can do what this does, in my opinion.


What are you driving it with?
 

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Well i can handle the big and certainly am looking for that type of sound...do you have any pics? yeah I would also love to know what you are driving it with



What are you using as ur mains? Was it pretty easy to put together? (the building part isnt a concern...)all the other stuff hehe...thanks for the response!
 

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I am driving it with an Outlaw audio monoblock. It is rated at 200 watts/channel. My front mains are Innersound Eros drived by an Innersound amplifier. My previous center was a pair of stacked Magnepan cc1's. They were great sounding, but just were not dynamic enough for my taste. I listen and watch a lot of concert videos as music is my first love.

As far as the build goes, Jed is extremely helpful. Whenever I had a question, I emailed him and he responded quickly and courteously. Because the 4cc is so capable, it is more room sensitve than a typical mini-center that is made to sit on top of most televisions. It is actually a main channel speaker that is oriented to be a center-channel. I had difficulty originally getting it to sound right in my room. I thought it was too warm for my taste. Jed recommended plugging the ports which ended up working great for me. This reduces the extension to about 80 hz, but it ended up mating well in my system. As a sidenote, the Magnepans tend to be lean sounding as they had limited extension (160 hz I believe), so this was probably more of my bias due to the fact that I listened to them for years and I was after the same type of sound with more output capability, which I now have.

Back to the build, when you purchase a kit, Jed sends you pdf files of the cabinet construction and a diagram of the crossover. You will have to solder the speaker wires on a few locations of the crossover, but it is straightforward. Before I mounted the crossover, I snapped a photo and emailed it to Jed and he gave me his approval. The box itself requires a full sheet of mdf, so it is quite heavy when it is completely assembled. I completed the box in my basement, carrried it 2 flights of stairs to my listening room and then mounted the drivers once I got it in place. Much easier for this old man. I think the easiest way to build the speaker is to make a list of the panels you need to make. I would make the top panel slightly oversized and then use a flush trim router bit to finish it. This gives you a nice clean result which will make things easier when you finish the box. Mine is located in a light controlled black room, so finishing was not that critical. Mine is simply painted black. When building the box, it is simply glued, so you will need quite a few clamps. There are four braces to build for the box, and everything is really easy to do. If you go to Jed's website, he has a build thread with pictures. Also, I would read any of the related forums which will answer a lot of questions. You can also pm me if you would like, or ask here and I will do my best to help.
 

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Well i certainly appreciate the insight! BUt most importantly.....how does it sound?? are you pleased with it?
 

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I think it is a great sounding center. To my ears, it is neutral, balanced and extended at both frequency extremes. It is transparent, detailed, dynamic and has midbass punch that my beloved maggie was missing. The magnepan centers have been reviewed many times over the years. In my opinion, the

4cc has similar characteristics of detail, transparency, etc. but also add the capability of dynamics that the Magnepan was lacking. I am very satisfied with it and am amazed it works with my system. I don't like to go into great detail about the sound as it is only my opinion, which really isn't all that relevant in the overall scheme of things. You may talk to other people who totally disagree. However, consider this; my front speakers are now made under the company name: sanderssoundsystemsdotcom. They cost many times more that the $600 or so for the 4cc. The fact that I happily have them together in the same system to me is a testament to its ability. Once you reach a point where the system sounds right, I just tend to relax and enjoy what I am hearing. Prior to that, I think most of us spend the majority of our time analyzing the sound. I no longer do that. Just to give you an idea of my tastes and/or bias, I either have or have previously owned Polk Audio RTA12c's, Vandersteen 2c's,, Apogee Centaurus, Magnepan CC1's (pair) and Magnepan MMG's. If you tell me exactly what you are expecting from the speaker and what equipment you are using or are planning to use, I might be able to provide you with more information.
 

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I am in the process of building the 4CC right now. Just finished glueing it all up except the top and Baffle. I obviously can't comment on the sound but as far as Jed goes I will recommend his products to anyone just off his dedication to his customers. I have been emailing him back and forth for several months with questions before I sent him money and never once did I have any problems. Now that I have purchased his products he is still the same, very helpful and dedicated.


I will be posting a build thread on his forum here soon


Hope this helps...


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That sounds awesome!


LS3, I have been using a Onix Bigfoot speaker and it is great but just looking for something a little bit more dynamic and fuller sound being that it has some serious keeping up to do with the subs....I am using swan 6.1 mains and im not overly concerned with timbre matching though that might be a sin on this forum....I am just looking for somethign very serious in the center department as I love movies and to me its just a huge part....


I will probably send Jed an email this week and I try to get my current center fixed and sold to fund this little project and from what it sounds like....Jed is a stand up guy and to me its a double bonus to support a great product with dedicated designers and builders



Any pics or updates of your build musik would be great!
 

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I just finished starting my build thread on his forum. Not sure if we can do outside links here so I won't. I am not even getting my crossover till the end of this month, so my progress will be slow. Should be able to just plug and play when it arrives though. Here is the only picture I have. Had to use the wife's IPhone since our camera broke.




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MDK2007, I think the clearwave 4cc will be a great choice for you. It is a high quality speaker that I think will meet your criteria. Judicious use of your processors settings should get you the bass response you are looking for and it certaily plays loud. I typically listen to music at about 105 db as I said, but I have listened louder than that and it responds effortlessly. I tried to attach a couple pictures. I don't normally do this, so I apologize for the quality(lack of). As far as timbre matching, while it has merit, if the center channel is of high enough quality to complement your main speakers, and as long as the tonal balance is close to your main speakers, it is less of an issue. I think overall transparency, quality of sound is just as much of an issue.

 
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