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7channelfreak closed on his new house a few days ago and has asked me to tag along and assist with converting his 2nd floor media room to a dedicated home theater. He has the same floor plan as the model home, so here are some shots from the model to give you an idea of what we would have started with.







And the builder's floor plan



The room is 13'-7" wide x 18'-9" long. It comes standard with a traditional vaulted ceiling starting at 8' and rising to 10', double doors, and no riser. It is a decent space, but 7channelfreak has been lurking on AVS for sometime so he knew there was room for improvement. He invited me to come see the model home and then to visit the unfinished space in his house that was still under construction. He had lots of ideas from previous discussions with Big. We tossed around some additional ideas and in order to get his builder to do some of the heavy lifting, we quickly put some plans together that included:

-a modified ceiling with a 2-layer soffit instead of the standard vaulted configuration

-revised can light locations

-a riser in the back of the room

-changing the double doors to a single door

-adding a step outside the single door to enter at riser height

-preferred locations of all electrical and low voltage boxes

-required conduit runs

-appropriate blocking for the projector


His builder was able to incorporate most of what we asked for. They couldn't quite give us the riser height we wanted and forgot to add the lip along the front edge. They also didn't get the size of the can lights correct (requested 4", got 6"). They weren't willing to modify the HVAC, so we will be doing that after the fact. 7channelfreak even upgraded to the popular Masland carpet, so it almost looks like an AVS room even though we actually haven't done any work in there yet.



Here is what the room looks like now, after the builder incorporated our changes.


View from Game Room






Screen Wall




Ceiling (HVAC will be expanded and moved to the soffits so the ceiling can receive a painted cloud mural AND night sky star mural)






Back wall/riser






Left Wall




Right Wall




Carpet/riser



And a plan showing what we intend to do:



The design will be similar to the Rawlinsway Theater, minus the columns. A chair rail will be added along with "wainscot" trim below the chair rail. Wall below chair rail will be light gray. Wall above chair rail will be medium gray. Fabric panels above chair rail will be medium gray surrounded with light gray trim. Soffits will be black. Ceiling will be sky blue with cloud mural and night sky star mural.


Acoustic treatments will be added to all 4 walls, hidden behind the false wall and fabric panels.


No soundproofing measures will be implemented with the exception of R19 insulation already added to the interior walls.


Proposed Equipment:

-LCRs: (3) JTR Noesis 212-HT-lp

-Surrounds: (4) JTR Slanted 8

-Heights: TBD

-Subwoofer: (1) JTR Captivator S2 with plans for a 2nd

-Screen: Screen Excellence 120" wide 2.35:1 AT w/Enlightor 4K fabric and Premier J-Frame

-Projector: TBD (something 4K) EDIT: Sony 4K VW600ES

-Receiver: Denon 4520

-Amp: Sherbourn 7-350

-BluRay: Oppo 103D

-Front seats: (3) Cinematech LeGrand

-Rear seats: (3) TBD (maybe Fusion Tributes)


I'll follow up with some wall elevations to better convey our panel/trim concepts and color scheme.
 

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Originally Posted by Spaceman  /t/1497736/college-parks-4k-cinema-v1-0#post_23904522


We tossed around some ideas and in order to get his builder to do some of the heavy lifting, we quickly put some plans together that included:

-a modified ceiling with a 2-layer soffit instead of the standard vaulted configuration

-revised can light locations

-a riser in the back of the room

-changing the double doors to a single door

-adding a step outside the single door to enter at riser height

-preferred locations of all electrical and low voltage boxes

-required conduit runs

-appropriate blocking for the projector
Nice choices.
Was the rack "closet" an add-on as well? I don't see it in the floor plan. And did they run all the speaker wire? I see the wall plates for 7.x plus heights and wides, I think (funny 7channelfreak would have 11...) - are they loaded or set with conduit - to the rack, I presume?


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Yes, the rack closet was a requested change as well and the bump out into the game room made for a convenient place to add the step outside the theater. I wish the step went the full depth of the bump out though.


All speaker locations are pre-wired back to the rack closet.
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I see the wall plates for 7.x plus heights and wides, I think (funny 7channelfreak would have 11...)

7channelfreak used to go by the name Betamax King, followed by S-Video Lover, so some people never learn.
 

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First...I can't tell you how lucky I am to have input from Spaceman. Just look at his theater. He has been incredibly helpful. I'd be working on this a year from now without him.


Yes...I had the room wired for 11.3. I'm only thinking heights as I'm not convinced I have the width to do wides. I'm also thinking Atmos might change the recommended speaker layout. I guess we will see if something is announced at CES.


The closet was also a add-on. It will fit my omni mount rack.



Thanks...and let the fun begin!
 

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I'd be working on this a year from now without him.

You saw the timeline from my build, right? You may be working on this a year from now WITH me.
Just kidding. I think we have a good game plan.
 

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I like the color theme and the modification to the builder already.



IMHO, I would rather save 21" of space from the false wall and go for some decent in-wall speakers instead. Just like what Spaceman did.
 

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We both were a little worried about how immersive it would feel. Before selecting speakers, we were playing with a 115" wide screen and were hoping to have at least a 9'-6" viewing distance. 7channelfreak ultimately decided on the JTRs, which reduced the viewing distance to right around 9'. Even with the reduction, he wanted to see if we could push the screen size to 120". We decided to test it in my room and moved my seats closer to the screen to duplicate the same horizontal viewing angle he would have with a 120" wide screen from 9' away. I popped in one of the car chase scenes from the Bourne Trilogy and while it was a little close for me, 7channelfreak was happy. The JTRs and the screen were promptly ordered, so there is no turning back.
 

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I like the color theme and the modification to the builder already.



IMHO, I would rather save 21" of space from the false wall and go for some decent in-wall speakers instead. Just like what Spaceman did.
 

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Inwalls versus JTR. NO contest.



Island style riser, on the riser?

Yes...I've heard JTR in three different rooms now. I had to put them in. I really had no choice. Hahaha.


Yes....a riser for the back row which will get little action.
 

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Yeah...that's been the design work around we have struggled with. I wish the room was longer but I wanted AT. When I was looking at Traid, they were just as deep as the JTR I'm going with. I just dont have the depth id like but we all have to make sacrifices somewhere in this hobby. Going way back...I was going to use my Def Tech system. I had the 7001s with the 3000 center. After going to see spaceman's theater, I was determined to go AT. Had to sell the def tech which I was very happy with and start over. Lets hope it all comes together as planned. Haha


We talked about using your staggered panel look but once again the short room would have affected the appearance. Maybe I need to move back north so I can have a big basement.
I know, it's all about how to make the room "as close" to what we want within reality. I too very happy with my BP7001s & CLR3000 too, but I've been thinking an AT screen + Triad lately. Yeah, I agree once you've seen an AT screen, it'll be hard to resist.


And as doublewing said, you full JTR setup will be awesome especially if you really gonna put dual S2 in that space (
 

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One S2 is



Two S2's are





Hahaha....yeah, I'm not sure it's needed on a suspended floor but I'm looking for smoothing. That's the logic anyway. The other option is get an S1 and put at the end of 2nd row.
 

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Hahaha....yeah, I'm not sure it's needed on a suspended floor but I'm looking for smoothing. That's the logic anyway. The other option is get an S1 and put at the end of 2nd row.

That is a great idea. As powerful as the S2 is........you most definitely will need more for smoothing. An S1 should do well in that room and will help with smoothing. In my room, a second S2 would be overkill and not address my room issues.....don't know about yours.


After measurements, I'm going a different direction for leveling modes. My room issues are centered around 20-40 hz region.....so it looks like possibly adding four 18 inch Dayton drivers.......two at mid-line and two behind 2nd row. The single S2 hits hard below 20 hz..............which is not an issue in room.
 

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7 channel, I know about Archaea's place, where was the 3rd place you heard the Noesis?


Man, that S2 is going to be crazy tactile on a suspended floor!! I agree with you though, you will definitely want another or at least a S1 to smooth the response.


Congratulations on what's going to be a kick a$$ room!!
 

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Did I say Noesis or JTR? I may have misspoke. Three times with JTR and twice with Noesis.


My first JTR experience was here in Houston with JC507 and his triple 8s and an S2. He wants to do a DIY sub project like yours. Ill be surprised if we don't see that in the threads soon.
 
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