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oops i forgot to attach the original of these pictures before they had color bleeding. here you go. Now yopu can distinguish between the two pics.
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Color Bleeding on NEW samsung 46" lcd ln-s4692d. I posted a picture of it. Help??
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Ok i just got the new samsung ln-s4692d and noticed alot of color bleeding defects. I dont know if it is because that is just the way this tv is supposed to be or if it is a defect in the actuall tv i have?
i attached a couple pictures of the kind of color bleeding that is going on.
The first picture are of a gray sky. This is what i notice on tan walls in dark scenes(and sometimes other objects and other colors). The color turns neon green or neon pink and looks like the color is smooshed and it moves around on the wall.
The second picture is what i see sometimes on upclose shots of peoples faces. its sort of color bleeding dots on their faces. Notice the picture of the face has smooshed dots on the girls cheek/face
another exampleof what im seeing Is the picture of the bird. Notice how the background has those smooshed dots of discolor.
Now can anybody tell me what is causing this? or how i canget rid of this? or is it just that i got a defective tv and i should send it back?
i attached a couple pictures of the kind of color bleeding that is going on.
The first picture are of a gray sky. This is what i notice on tan walls in dark scenes(and sometimes other objects and other colors). The color turns neon green or neon pink and looks like the color is smooshed and it moves around on the wall.
The second picture is what i see sometimes on upclose shots of peoples faces. its sort of color bleeding dots on their faces. Notice the picture of the face has smooshed dots on the girls cheek/face
another exampleof what im seeing Is the picture of the bird. Notice how the background has those smooshed dots of discolor.
Now can anybody tell me what is causing this? or how i canget rid of this? or is it just that i got a defective tv and i should send it back?
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The pics you posted are low res gifs! 
This is what your TV looks like? Take some actual screen captures.
This is what your TV looks like? Take some actual screen captures.Yes, please post some pics of your actual tv with how the pic looks.
BUT, if your tv looks just like those gif attachments it looks to be a combination of the dreaded SAMSUNG DNie function (that can't be turned off...might have changed this for your model), LCD technology, and a NON Calibrated tv (contrast, brightness, sharpness and color set poorly).
It could be all of these, one of these or a combo of these.
Turn off any COLOR ENHANCERS and SHARPNESS ENHANCERS if you can and also see if you can turn OFF the DNie feature. Most Samsungs only allow you to see what it would look like IF you didn't have it, but they don't allow you to actually turn it off.
BUT, if your tv looks just like those gif attachments it looks to be a combination of the dreaded SAMSUNG DNie function (that can't be turned off...might have changed this for your model), LCD technology, and a NON Calibrated tv (contrast, brightness, sharpness and color set poorly).
It could be all of these, one of these or a combo of these.
Turn off any COLOR ENHANCERS and SHARPNESS ENHANCERS if you can and also see if you can turn OFF the DNie feature. Most Samsungs only allow you to see what it would look like IF you didn't have it, but they don't allow you to actually turn it off.
Really can't tell much from those pics. These are actual images from this panel? If so... why do you still own this TV?
If so... why do you still own this TV?What source? Whats etup? What input? What settings?
And post actual photographs.
FWIW, my Sceptre X42 (1920x1080) shows none of this, and has flawless color reproduction, including with a PC DVI input (1920x1080).
And post actual photographs.
FWIW, my Sceptre X42 (1920x1080) shows none of this, and has flawless color reproduction, including with a PC DVI input (1920x1080).
The images (gifs) show the effects of posturizing color. That means..there are not enough colors to display all the gradiations necessary to smooth everything. You end up with color "banding".
It's not something DNIe does. You've either got defective set, bad cables or bad source material.
It will be helpful for you to upload not only an image screen shot from your set...but to post your settings as well. I would suggest you hit "reset" on one of the standard modes (dynamic or movie) to see if it is still there.
It's not something DNIe does. You've either got defective set, bad cables or bad source material.
It will be helpful for you to upload not only an image screen shot from your set...but to post your settings as well. I would suggest you hit "reset" on one of the standard modes (dynamic or movie) to see if it is still there.
ok i will post pics of my actual set showing a movie tonight.
When i set the dnie function to demo =on, it shows what the set would look like without dnie and it looks better with Dnie. Without Dnie, it looks like the blacks are purple.
When i set the dnie function to demo =on, it shows what the set would look like without dnie and it looks better with Dnie. Without Dnie, it looks like the blacks are purple.
Sister had a Sammy - defective - posterized like crazy (1st pic).
Funny, my MS Word is buggy - it posterizes pics I copy to photoshop unless I copy to Powerpoint first.
Replaced the set - no problem.
Get a new one.
Funny, my MS Word is buggy - it posterizes pics I copy to photoshop unless I copy to Powerpoint first.
Replaced the set - no problem.
Get a new one.
Yes, I agree with the posts above - from your description it sounds defective. I am a little bit confused about your terminology. Color bleeding usually refers to when a color "bleeds" out of the normal boundary, much like blooming. From the pictures you have up and your description, it sounds more like false contouring or posturizing.
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Doug
ohhhhhhh oh, see i didnt know what it was called so i called it color bleeding. It definitaly looks ike those dots on the persons face or sometimes it even looks like that sky where the people shade under there chin would be a little green or pinkish but not anywehre near exagerated as the sky picture. It always happens on a big background image of a tan wall. The tan wall becomes neon green in some areas or neon pinkish.
So does everybody agree that it is a defect in the set, and its not just the way the tv is supposed to be??? and it is called posturizing?? so what do i tell the store i got it from, that my tv has posturizing and is defective??
I couldnt find my camera last night but i will do so tonight.
EDIT: its not dnie because i turned DNIe demo mode on and i checked each side, and this posturizing was actualy worse with DNIe on
So does everybody agree that it is a defect in the set, and its not just the way the tv is supposed to be??? and it is called posturizing?? so what do i tell the store i got it from, that my tv has posturizing and is defective??
I couldnt find my camera last night but i will do so tonight.
EDIT: its not dnie because i turned DNIe demo mode on and i checked each side, and this posturizing was actualy worse with DNIe on
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This happens with all inputs and with a bunch fof diff settings. VGA,HDMI,Component. i did hit reset on dynamic and movie mode
What is bad source material, could it be very low resolution material????
EDIT: Before i take this tv back, i just want to make sure this is not just the way this tv is supposed to be. ok now answer this :
Is this dot crawl/false contouring not supposed to happen "at all"???? or does it sometimes show up a little bit on some brands of lcd's and thats just the way it is??
| You've either got defective set, bad cables or bad source material. It will be helpful for you to upload not only an image screen shot from your set...but to post your settings as well. I would suggest you hit "reset" on one of the standard modes (dynamic or movie) to see if it is still there. |
What is bad source material, could it be very low resolution material????
EDIT: Before i take this tv back, i just want to make sure this is not just the way this tv is supposed to be. ok now answer this :
Is this dot crawl/false contouring not supposed to happen "at all"???? or does it sometimes show up a little bit on some brands of lcd's and thats just the way it is??
Can someone post alink to a webpage that explains falsecontouring or posturizing or does someone have pics of it?
Your pictures look exactly how they would look if you took 16 million color video and downsampled it into 16 color total. It almost looks like your video processor lost connection on some data lines and is not getting full color information. I would replace it ASAP.
hey pete those are not pics of my actaull set, they are just pictures of i found ojn the internet that look pretty much like what im seeing on my TV. I couldtn find my digital cvamera last night but i will try to find it tonight. should i take the pics with the light off or on in my room, should i take the pics with the flash off or on and how far away?
A bad cable could do it as well. But, if it's happening with all inputs (diff cables) my guess is that's not the problem.
If you are viewing cable TV...it's entirely possible that you can get Bad signal/source from that.
That's what I meant by bad "source" (ie..whatever you are watching). SD cable upsampled and stretched on a large screen..is always going to be worse for wear. But does it also do this with DVD? If you still see this same thing on DVD on a different input , I would definitely take this set back and get a new one.
If you are viewing cable TV...it's entirely possible that you can get Bad signal/source from that.
That's what I meant by bad "source" (ie..whatever you are watching). SD cable upsampled and stretched on a large screen..is always going to be worse for wear. But does it also do this with DVD? If you still see this same thing on DVD on a different input , I would definitely take this set back and get a new one.
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If you want to take picture of your screen I would suggest camera on the tripod, as little outside light as possible to reduce reflections and absolutely no flash. Make sure TV screen fills most if not whole frame of the picture. You could bracket the exposure (take 1 picture exactly as the meter shows and then under/overexpose 0.5 f-stop or so) and take more than few shots to pick the best. Well, as I said if the pictures are representing what you see on the screen, it seems something is wrong with the screen. The only other time I can think of, where the picture would look similar to your samples would be watching the video off axis at large angle on some sets. But even that shouldn't be so bad since your screen supposed to have twisted crystals technology which has rather wide viewing angle. In other words, with good HD signal your screen should look "wow, I can't believe TV can look that good" and not " what the heck is this ?".
| Originally Posted by mikej3131 hey pete those are not pics of my actaull set, they are just pictures of i found ojn the internet that look pretty much like what im seeing on my TV. I couldtn find my digital cvamera last night but i will try to find it tonight. should i take the pics with the light off or on in my room, should i take the pics with the flash off or on and how far away? |
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Is a DIVX 700MB rencoded movie a bad source and will it cause bad posturizing? I was watching "when a stranger calls" which has alottt of dark scenes and it was a 700MB rencoded DIVX video. The movie was on my computer and i connected my VGA input to the tv and watched it like that. Im asking because that is one of the movies that was horrible with the posturizing.
I also watched the move "Havoc" that i rentedfrom blockbuster on dvd and it had some posturizing also.
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i dont know how to do that or dont know what overexposure is? but i will take a couple tonight if i find my camera
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Well the color and definition on some HD is "WOW" but that posturizing still shows one background images of walls or large objects of one color. There is hardly any posturizing on peoples faces with HD material though, only sometimes.
| If you are viewing cable TV...it's entirely possible that you can get Bad signal/source from that. That's what I meant by bad "source" (ie..whatever you are watching). SD cable upsampled and stretched on a large screen..is always going to be worse for wear. But does it also do this with DVD? If you still see this same thing on DVD on a different input , I would definitely take this set back and get a new one. |
I also watched the move "Havoc" that i rentedfrom blockbuster on dvd and it had some posturizing also.
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| You could bracket the exposure (take 1 picture exactly as the meter shows and then under/overexpose 0.5 f-stop or so) and take more than few shots to pick the best. |
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| In other words, with good HD signal your screen should look "wow, I can't believe TV can look that good" and not " what the heck is this ?". |
DIVX is a compressed movie. Yes..that could explain what you are seeing.
Did you watch the Blockbuster DVD via your computer/VGA using your computers DVD player as well?
Did you watch the Blockbuster DVD via your computer/VGA using your computers DVD player as well?
via my standalone upconverting dvd player with HDMI.
So compressed divx movies can show false contouring?
So compressed divx movies can show false contouring?
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