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Cool. If Fox 22 could get rid of that strange crosshatch pattern that happens during video transitions, it would be great. The picture quality difference between Fox 22 and Fox 27 in Springfield is huge. Springfield looks much more crisp.
 

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Cool. If Fox 22 could get rid of that strange crosshatch pattern that happens during video transitions, it would be great. The picture quality difference between Fox 22 and Fox 27 in Springfield is huge. Springfield looks much more crisp.

scottmo2020: Are you talking about network content or syndicated content being more crisp? I would think that both FOX stations would be broadcasting at 720p and that network content should look identical. Thoughts?
 

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scottmo2020: Are you talking about network content or syndicated content being more crisp? I would think that both FOX stations would be broadcasting at 720p and that network content should look identical. Thoughts?

The network content is more crisp than syndicated, which is to be expected. However, on both types of content on Fox22 there are very subtle flashes of this strange pattern. Honestly it has been a month or so since I have checked, so perhaps it is fixed. Even though my tuner shows 720p for both Columbia and Springfield, the Springfield affiliate always looks richer to me.
 

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I just wish that they would upgrade KQFX FOX 22's power. They should put it at least close to KMIZ's.


The Fox network is watched more than ABC anyways, and if they had it full power, they could put a sub-channel on 22. For example, they could have KZOU on channel 22.2 (and even remap it with PSIP to 17.3 if the wanted) so they could have better picture quality on 17.1. They could even try KZOU as HD, although that would ruin Fox's picture quality a bit. I wouldn't complain though.
 

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I just wish that they would upgrade KQFX FOX 22's power. They should put it at least close to KMIZ's.


The Fox network is watched more than ABC anyways, and if they had it full power, they could put a sub-channel on 22. For example, they could have KZOU on channel 22.2 (and even remap it with PSIP to 17.3 if the wanted) so they could have better picture quality on 17.1. They could even try KZOU as HD, although that would ruin Fox's picture quality a bit. I wouldn't complain though.

They don't really need more power to add sub channels. Regardless of transmit power, stations have the same amount of bandwidth to use as they see fit. Higher transmit power would help in the fringe areas like Lake of the ozarks, and fill in gaps such as low lying areas, etc. Back in 2009, they were planning on moving KZOU to 22 but I guess that never happened. At least they don't do like KSPR in Springfield and run two HD channels in the same bandwidth. Both of those channels look like absolute garbage.
 

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METV or Antenna TV or My Family Net or Estrella TV or The Cool TV or The Country Network or so on that Columbia/Jefferson City doesn't have.
 

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They don't really need more power to add sub channels. Regardless of transmit power, stations have the same amount of bandwidth to use as they see fit. Higher transmit power would help in the fringe areas like Lake of the ozarks, and fill in gaps such as low lying areas, etc.

Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. I know they could add the subchannel now at the lower power and move KZOU from 17.3 to 22.2, but I don't think they'd want to; they'd lose OTA viewers (like those at the lake) on KZOU if they moved it to the much weaker 22.


If 22 had near the same power level as 17, then they wouldn't lose viewers on KZOU if it moved to 22.2. Sorry, that's still not clear, but someone might catch my drift.


Basically, I just hope they one day increase 22's power.


After all, they're saving a lot of money by keeping KMIZ at 120kW, instead of its original plan for 1000kW (that would have been awesome). And then, Fox 22's at only 11.8 kW...
 

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After all, they're saving a lot of money by keeping KMIZ at 120kW, instead of its original plan for 1000kW (that would have been awesome). And then, Fox 22's at only 11.8 kW...

Ah, now I'm getting it! I'm at the Lake, and KMIZ comes in great, around 85% on average. Fox 22 I get in the 50's and it breaks up too bad to watch. If I adjust my antenna just right, I can get Fox 22 in the low 70's pretty solid without many breakups. But when I do that, I'm aiming too far north east for KRCG. Out of all the channels, KRCG is the worst by far, being on VHF and barely running any power. I don't know how well KRCG works for people in Columbia/Jeff, but it is obvious they don't care at all about their OTA people and are all about saving the boat load of money they do by running an underpowered VHF.


I have really given up on the Columbia stations and have gone over to Springfield. KOMU disappeared completely for me when they went back to VHF 8. KOLR 10 is on VHF but they at least tried to increase power. Now KSFX 27 is losing Fox and it is moving to KRBK 49, which I am only a few miles from and can't get OTA! Hopefully they get to full power before September.
 

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It would be nice if you gave some details about what antenna you're using and other such stuff.


KMIZ and KQFX share a tower a bit west of Jamestown. KRCG's tower is on US 54 near New Bloomfield. Since KRCG operates on a VHF channel (12), a VHF antenna would be the proper tool to receive it.
 

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Anyone have tips for receiving Fox 22 in Columbia? I've got a Viper indoor antenna which was picking up bits and pieces during the Rams game yesterday. I moved my whole setup (with a little TV monitor) into the attic this morning to see if that would improve the reception, and I'm getting almost nothing. We are renting the house, so installing a roof antenna has some challenges. Anyone know of an indoor or attic antenna that works well?


I just wanna watch football....
 

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As I just noted yesterday, KQFX transmits from a tower near Jamestown. At only 15 kW ERP, indoor antennas will be challenging in Columbia unless you happen to be in a very favorable location.


Select an antenna that would be normally suggested for "long-range" UHF reception. Not much you can buy in this category in a local retail store except perhaps the Antennas Direct C2 or C4 which should be available at Best Buy stores. If you had time to order and can tolerate the physical size, a 4-Bay UHF antenna would give the best odds.


Afraid I've never heard of a "Viper" antenna. Try placing it in a window that faces southwest.
 

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About to move to Columbia. From a location on the southwest edge of town, I've tried indoor reception using a couple antennas (rabbit ears with VHF poles, and the Leaf flat-panel indoor antenna).  I can get KQFX at over 90% with the Leaf (but not on the the rabbit ears with UHF loop) but the VHF signal of KRCG is elusive and I have yet to lock in that signal.  Naturally, on the Leaf, since it's optimized for UHF, KRCG is showing up at only about 10%. But even the VHF rabbit ears aren't pulling more than 30%.  I will probably be living north of I-70 which will be farther from both KQFX and KRCG. I should still be able to get KQFX, so not highly worried about that, but CBS is the broadcast network I watch most so really want to get KRCG and am not paying for cable/satellite. Short of an attic mounted yagi antenna, are there any VHF indoor antennas that others in Columbia have used for reliable KRCG reception?

 

No issues receiving (nor am I anticipating any issues receiving) KMOS or KMIZ, though with KOMU also on VHF I'm wondering how it will come in north of 70. The Leaf pulls it in at about 70% in SW Columbia. Can also get KNLJ fine but no plans to watch that station.
 

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In Columbia, you usually need a UHF antenna pointed southwest and a separate high-VHF antenna pointed southeast, usually at a right angle each other. That usually means you need to "roll your own" by selecting separate antennas of each type and combining them with a UVSJ. When my nephew was at Mizzou (just graduated), he was working at Best Buy in the HT department. He had picked up a C2 antenna there for his off-campus apartment and was able to do well with the UHF stations but couldn't do much with channel 13 out of Jeff City. He said he called Antennas Direct and someone there showed him how to use the VHF add-on kit for the C2 to make what he called a "Columbia Special". Nephew said it worked great.
 

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Yep. He had to disassemble it, do some cutting and drilling, then he had the dipole mounted to the screen above the top of the antenna. He was working on it when I was visiting over the holidays that year. He said it looked a bit weird and you had to be sure not to walk into the ends of the dipoles, but it worked for his location near the campus. I suppose, if you wish, you could leave the dipole separate and, with a longer coax, put the dipole somewhere else as needed away from the C2.
 

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Originally Posted by mgsports  /t/463780/columbia-mo-hdtv/1140#post_23873197

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Columbia_MO_TV shows 13.2 LWN so KRCG could be adding it's first Digital Sub Channel.
 

The Wikipedia page is probably wrong on this since it has been showing 13.2 for months.  According to the LWN website St. Louis has their only affiliate in Missouri.
 
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