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Connecting a Plasma and a projector to one scaler

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Hi All,


First is splitting RGB sigmal passivley something bad?


Is there is any scaler that can automatically switch by IR between two presets with different reselution setting? I need to connect a Fujitsu plasma and a D-ILA to one scaler. did anybody try something like this before?



Thanks in advance for all of those who will be answering:)
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Why would you need to split them passively? Because if you did, that WOULD be bad --- you'd get signal degradation.


However, there are other options, called "distribution amplifiers," that have one or two RGB inputs and 2 to 4 RGB outputs. They are powered and require a power supply, but they buffer and amplify the output and that makes a huge difference; I use one for a long cable run to avoid image ghosting, for example.


Extron makes them -- www.extron.com, and they're about $100-150 US each.


As far as having various memory presets for different displays, many scalers do that. The Rock+, Vigatec and Faroudja all have memory presets that can be used that way, I believe.


What you describe is pretty simple. Good luck!


Cheers
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Um... DA's do not stop ghosting. Ghosting is caused by impedance mismatches or open video paths, DA's do not deal with that.


Also, a DA for a long run is not really needed unless we are talking about a run over about 50-100 feet. But that is another story alltogether


A DA takes one signal and then using an Amplifier it makes many copies of it. all the same voltage and everything else.


So, in answer to the original question, just find your self a DA with al least 200 MHz of bandwidth and you should be fine. FOr best results, only get one with two outputs as there are other issues possibly if you had say 6 outputs and only used two.


Ebay always seems to have lots of DA's on it.


Also, there are numerous Scalers on the marketplace. Some have two independantly amplified outputs. So you may not even need a DA. Just check on that option as well.
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I use a D-ILA and a Sony F500. Two display devices driven simultaneously. The Sony is very forgiving. But only one source input at a time can be selected. The same output goes to each set of connectors (RGBHV and VGA). If you wanted to stop watching the plasma and start watching the D-ILA, you would need to turn the D-ILA on, and select the appropriate output formatting (which can be set to only one value at a time for each of the inputs). If you could have your source device drive two vigatec VGA inputs, then a single IR command would select the D-ILA - associated input and the format would come with it. Failing that, you would need to select a different outut format setting when going the D-ILA [which could be programmed into a Pronto or similiar].


These comments apply to the GVC-1280 (SDI). Don't know about the other choices.


These comments assume that you wish to do the formating in the Vigatec rather than somewhere else (e.g., Dilardized D_ila).


Vince


PS (edit) It is slightly frightening to post your reply and see that Dizzman posted right ahead of you. There will be only dead bodies left on the field and no questions left to slay. But we seem to have passed quietly. You are supposed to take that as a compliment Dizzman.
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Well, hey, Dizzman, the DA helped MY ghosting and improved my picture generally, so go figure it ... I am sure not complaining because it's not supposed to do that! :)


Cheers
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Thanks Vlubbers and everybody


I have a Theta Casanova with 2 S Video outs, will that do? why did you choose the Vigatec over the Faroudja NR? is it because of the SDI input or overall picture quality? I am planning to buy a DVD with SDI out.

QUOTE]Originally posted by Vlubbers
I use a D-ILA and a Sony F500. Two display devices driven simultaneously. The Sony is very forgiving. But only one source input at a time can be selected. The same output goes to each set of connectors (RGBHV and VGA). If you wanted to stop watching the plasma and start watching the D-ILA, you would need to turn the D-ILA on, and select the appropriate output formatting (which can be set to only one value at a time for each of the inputs). If you could have your source device drive two vigatec VGA inputs, then a single IR command would select the D-ILA - associated input and the format would come with it. Failing that, you would need to select a different outut format setting when going the D-ILA [which could be programmed into a Pronto or similiar].


These comments apply to the GVC-1280 (SDI). Don't know about the other choices.


These comments assume that you wish to do the formating in the Vigatec rather than somewhere else (e.g., Dilardized D_ila).


Vince


PS (edit) It is slightly frightening to post your reply and see that Dizzman posted right ahead of you. There will be only dead bodies left on the field and no questions left to slay. But we seem to have passed quietly. You are supposed to take that as a compliment Dizzman.
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My Vigatec is way-early. SDI was hardly a topic of discussion. The option came available just as I decided. I choose to include it. Not scientific at all.


I have owned Faroujda products and I think they are wonderful performers. Pricey and aloof also fits.


I bought Vigatec somewhat because of Tommyboy2's findings. But mostly I respected Uwe's approach and style. I thought he represented the best compromise between substance and listening. The TAW and KD stuff was either unheard of, or immature. They have both made grand strides. Today's buyer has lots of good options. The NRS is great, but I use D-ILA and I am not sure they have accorded the D-ILA community the respect it deserves. Back to aloof. Or maybe it is great business. I guess I really don't care.


Vince
there are some RGBHV active splitters, why not use those?


BTW, there are some scalers that have simultaneous RGBHV out and Component out - you could use this capability as well (LEEZA being one of them).
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[BI have a Theta Casanova with 2 S Video outs, will that do? [/b]
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I'm doing this. I have a D-ILA, and a direct view, and I use my Casa Nova to split the S-Video out of a Tivo box to each of my displays. Works fine. Actually, the S-Video out of the Nova goes to a scaler (HTPC, actually), that then talks to the D-ILA via VGA. But, same difference - it used to work when I had svid going straight to the projector.


However, you don't want to do this if you can help it - S-Video will be much worse than RGB. If your scaler outputs RGB, and doesn't have multiple outputs, use a DA.


- Dave
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Thanks Vlubbers and everybody,


I have some more questions please:


I've just checked the Vigatec web site and read about the aspect ration conversion feature, how does this feature look like? is it OK or does it have noticeable artifacts?


how was the SDI improvement over the DVD that you were using before?


Thanx again
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My Vigatec is way-early. SDI was hardly a topic of discussion. The option came available just as I decided. I choose to include it. Not scientific at all.


I have owned Faroujda products and I think they are wonderful performers. Pricey and aloof also fits.


I bought Vigatec somewhat because of Tommyboy2's findings. But mostly I respected Uwe's approach and style. I thought he represented the best compromise between substance and listening. The TAW and KD stuff was either unheard of, or immature. They have both made grand strides. Today's buyer has lots of good options. The NRS is great, but I use D-ILA and I am not sure they have accorded the D-ILA community the respect it deserves. Back to aloof. Or maybe it is great business. I guess I really don't care.


Vince
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