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Originally Posted by pw5599 /forum/post/18174996
Post the results and we'll see.
Originally Posted by frito /forum/post/18174992
its hard to believe reports generated by a company that wants you to pay to read them.
you'd be better off reading CNET's reviews of TV's but even then a review of something like a TV will always be somewhat subjective to the person reviewing the TV (just like any other thing in this world)
Originally Posted by daniel'son /forum/post/18175170
^^ .. correct; based comment on initial read of first article. should have edited. thanxs.
edit: what's yr source; not seeing some of the models you mention shown in ratings graph.
Originally Posted by Citivas /forum/post/18175214
I have a subscription to Consumerreports.org and logged on just now.
Originally Posted by Citivas /forum/post/18175091
I don't get your premise. I actually agree that CR isn't a great source for electronic reviews (and CNET is marginally better at best, and lousy for TV's). But the idea that they are less credible because you pay for them makes no sense. The whole point of Consumer Reports is they don't take any advertising from the companies they are reviewing and, unlike CNEt and others, they don't accept free samples from the companies. As a result their only source of income is to charge the people who want reviews from a source not potentially compromised by the companies whose products they are reviewing. It makes total sense. It doesn't make them electronics experts, unfortunately, but it sure as heck makes them more trustworthy than CNET and others.
Originally Posted by Steve S /forum/post/18175659
^^^Consumer Reports ratings target and are most useful to buyers with little or no knowledge of or enthusiasm for the products they're rating. Their target demographic is upper middle class professionals with no desire to do hours of research on their own before making purchases. Their test methodology is usually quite sound but their priorities when coming up with their ratings aren't skewed the same way as ours. I don't think the average AVS member is likely to choose a set with much weight given to the button arrangement on the remote or the quality of the set's internal speakers.
The worst aspect of this report is that it comes when virtually all the models tested have been discontinued.
Originally Posted by bkspero /forum/post/18175303
When CR buys products to test, it results a 2nd benefit beyond eliminating the conflict of interest that a donated test sample represents (give a bad review, and never get another sample to test from that company). When CR buys their test samples, they go to stores and get the same quality items that you or I would be buying. When CNET gets a sample provided by the manufacturer, you know that the sample has been hand-picked and then tweaked to its ultimate performance by the supplier before it leaves for CNET.
For that reason I discount a review unless the product was a blind purchase or there is a negative comment that I can corroborate from other sources.