[Yves]

I read all your reviews about the Bravo D1, but I didn't find an answer to this question:


Is there a way to benefits from the upscaling, if I own a Z1 (no DVI, but a VGA)?

I know that by some obscure rule, you are not allowed to make a DVD with progressive scan outputing more than 480P. but if there is a way to convert the DVI to VGA, all of us out there would benefit from this player.


Perhaps the D1 has a VGA outpout? I don't think it would be impossible to make...

 

[Huey]

Momitsu makes DVI-I (digital and analog) which can output VGA with a $10 physical pin adaptors to allow DVI female plug to be changed into VGA female. If you want to use Bravo D1 which outputs digital only (although its plug suggests DVI-I output, probably due to firmware limitation to separate the Bravo from Momitsu), you will need the $400 active converter from Gefen or something like that. Another member has used this active converter and he said it works well and PQ is better than 480p alone, but it will be cheaper to go with Momitsu which uses the same Sigma chip, has better build quality (better DVD drive), MV and Region Free, more flexible as it supports DVI, VGA, component scaling (PQ will drop in the listed order but scaled component will look better than 480p component on digital display), and is only $100 more shipped from the orient.


Edit: Image of the back of Bravo D1 from their website:
http://www.vinc.com/PICTURES/BRAVO_D1_BACK.JPG

Image of back of Momitsu from keohi review site:
http://www.keohi.com/keohihdtv/video...80_collage.jpg

 

[PooperScooper]

Gefen makes a DVI-D -> VGA conversion box. If you have some $$$

to throw around, here's the link:

http://www.gefen.com/kvm/product.jsp?prod_id=1209


larry

 

[rboster]

What would be the benefit of the conversion box? Because the really benefits of DVI are the fact it kept in the digital domain...wouldn't all those benefits be lost if one is converting the digital to analog to send to the projector? Sorry for my confusion, but since my LCD FP doesn't have a DVI input-I haven't researched beyond the basics.


Thanks

Ron

 

[Yves]

Should be better to output a 1:1 pixel mapping to a digital projector. I own a PLV-Z1, so in order to do this I would use an HTPC, but I do not wish to take that road, so with a DVD player like the Bravo, I could do it with the source instead of using the projector scaling capacity.


I don't know if the picture would be better than using the same projector with the 480p component outpout and the internal scaler, or the 1:1 mapping with Bravo scaler (or Momitsu) with DVI converted to VGA.

 

[Huey]

Depends on the PJ internal scaler and native resolution, it may be better to let the PJ upscale 480p to its native resolution (540p) than spending all this money for DVI player and active DVI->VGA converter box. Z1 has pretty good scaler so I would just stick with 480p. Theoretically, for 1/4 HD, non-DVI capable PJ like Z1, PQ should be in this order: DVI-I->VGA @ 1080i using Momitsu and passive converter, DVI-D->VGA 1080i using Gefen box @ 1080i, component 480p from DCDi player, component 1080i from Momitsu or Liteon scaling-type players, and component 480p from non-DCDi players. We're skipping HTPC and external scalers which should be superior to these players. We're also skipping the expensive Samsung HD1000 for $1500 which can do 1080i very well using hacked firmware which has DCDi also. The reason I ranked DCDi 480p above these scaling players is that I believe that Z1 has a better scaler than these $200 players.