I got another convert into HDTV world today. He came over and saw my system and recently had bought a new Mits 509 set, and decided to go for it. However, he currently has the Ultimate TV thingie, so I guess he has a single elliptical with two LNBs, one for DirecPC and the other for regular DirecTV. Is the DirecPC stuff by any chance on the same sat as the HD stuff and use the same band? Or will he have to put up a second dish to get the sat channels? He's just doing OTA for the moment.