D* removed my distant networks no warning, no explanation

For some idea of why it happened, see this thread: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4&page=1&pp=30

Pick it up on the 5th page or so


For some help in getting them back, see this thread: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=515808


Or go to Search > Advanced Search > Thread Titles Only and look for DNS. You'll get a slew of threads.


Have you subscribed to a local channels package? If so, that's why you lost your DNS. Grandfathered subs can have locals or DNS but not both. You should have gotten a notification from DirecTV 60 days ago. Easy to miss. You may have tossed it out thinking it was junk mail.


If you are waivered, local broadcasters have the right to revoke those waivers.


Doc

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Please also note that the HD stations listed are listed using Analog data! In other words the data is phony!


But, that should change by 04/30/06, when digital testing is allowed, and I would assume a new method for determining digital availability.


As far as DNS is concerned, I have 3 digital DNS stations(West coast only) and analog NBC both coasts.


I expect my analog NBC to disappear at any time, but for now it's still there.

....jc

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Be sure you are looking at the correct KSAZ. KSAZ-AM is owned by OWL BROADCASTING & DEVELOPMENT, INC. (NOT connected with FOX) and KSAZ-TV is owned by FOX Television Stations, Inc. dba KSAZ License, Inc. KSAZ-TV had been a part of New World Communications in 1995 when FOX bought New World Communications and was owned by Citicasters (also known as Great American Broadcasting before the name change) before that and Taft Broadcasting before that and Gulf Broadcasting before that.


I know this since the station I work for has been a sister station of KSAZ since the early 1970's. We have shared the same owners for years, even during many of the years KSAZ was known as KTSP Channel 10.


SIDEBAR - WTSP channel 10 in Tampa, FL was also part of the Taft stations back to Gulf Broadcasting when KSAZ was KTSP (they even shared the same logo since both were channel 10) but New World didn't want WTSP since they already owned a station in Tampa, WTVT channel 13, now a FOX O & O. WTSP was sold to Gannett and I think still owns WTSP. The GM of WTSP at the time used to work at my station in sales about 6 years before the sale.

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The above information is correct. I, too, lost my four HD-DNS feeds over the holiday. But I got them back with a phone call.


Background: I obtained waivers for all four SD-DNS networks a couple of years ago because I couldn't get OTA networks and locals weren't available in my market from DirecTV. Once the locals became available here, things got tricky. As of now, I still receive East Coast SD network feeds (I pay for them) and West Coast HD network feeds. Somewhere along the line, I had "six months free locals" attached to my account, event though I've never had them hooked up. When those freebies expired a couple of days ago, suddenly all my DNS HD networks disappeared.


So last night, I phoned and convinced the CSR to give me another "six months free locals." My reasoning was that I already pay for four SD DNS feeds and pay for the HD package. So my four HD networks are back on again and I'm good ... for another six months.

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WTVT in Tampa, though a Fox O&O is still licensed to New World Communications as many of the other former New World Communications stations were.


WTSP went from Taft to Citicasters - and to Jaycor when Citicasters and Jaycor became one.


Later Jaycor traded it to Gannett for KIIS-FM in LA and Dallas as well as several other radio properties as a trade wiped out tax problems of a cash deal.

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Really? According to the FCC it is licensed to TVT License, Inc. http://svartifoss2.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/w...ility_id=68569

and here
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?list=0&facid=68569


In recent years, FOX has brought all of their stations into a similiar line no matter who they bought them from. They are also changing it again as we speak.


The station I work for also was owned by Gulf/Taft/Great American/Citicasters until 1996 along with WTSP. (I was there when it happened) It was after Citicasters sold the TV stations to New World (there were 4 of us, KTSP now KSAZ, WDAF, WBRC and WGHP), except WTSP, that I lost track of who owned WTSP but the last time I heard it was Gannett and I assumed that Gannett had bought them from Citicasters.

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You might want to tell them to change their on air announcements in Tampa and Detroit then. I'll mention it to Mike Howey. Probably an employement announcement that runs only in the dead of night anyway and no one has caught it up to update it.


Regardless, WTVT Holdings is a holding company for Fox and probably is under the holding company New World Communications which is where this whole thread started. In fact, the Fox Chicago station states plainly on their webpage there are only 8 Fox owned stations which we all know is hockey puck:



On March 3rd, 1986, FOX Television Stations, Inc., headed by Rupert Murdoch, purchased WFLD from Metromedia, as well as WNEW, New York (now WNYW); KTTV, Los Angeles; KRLD, Dallas (now KDAF); KRIV, Houston; and WTTG, Washington DC which are all part of the FOX television network. Since then, two stations have been added in Salt Lake City and Atlanta bringing the total to eight.


http://www.foxchicago.com/_ezpost/data/11372.shtml


Edit:

http://www.foxbghsuit.com/fox0429b.htm


5. Furthermore, since the filing of their lawsuit, Plaintiffs have entered into a course of conduct, attacking New World and its parent Fox Television Stations, Inc.


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WAGA_(TV)


Early in 1997, New World sold most of its stations, including WAGA, to Fox; the station then adopted the "Fox 5" branding. However, the holding entity for the station is still listed as "New World Communications of Atlanta".


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It was apparently done this way because:

http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/N/...wscorporat.htm


FOX's agreement with New World Communications, announced in May 1994, represented the largest single affiliate switch ever, but was considered controversial because many saw the agreement--in which FOX paid New World $500 million and 12 New World stations changed their affiliations to FBC--as a vehicle by which FOX was able to circumvent FCC limitations on the number of stations a single company is permitted to own.




New World Communications apparently is still a holding company for Fox.