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Nepomuk

Discussion Starter · Aug 5, 2021

Dear All,
naively I tried to clean spots, probably from insects, off the screen and subsequently discovered the powedery surface is created by a coating... The Stewart rep said its not reparable, luckily found this forum and MississippiMan's posts, which gave me hope.

The ST 100 was mentioned is easily to reproduce. What paint would you recommend? I am located in Germany though.

Much appreciated

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MississippiMan

· #2 · Aug 5, 2021

Nepomuk said:
Dear All,
naively I tried to clean spots, probably from insects, off the screen and subsequently discovered the powedery surface is created by a coating... The Stewart rep said its not reparable, luckily found this forum and MississippiMan's posts, which gave me hope.

The ST 100 was mentioned is easily to reproduce. What paint would you recommend? I am located in Germany though.

Much appreciated

Easy to reproduce (..as is also the ST 130 ) but it absolutely must be the right Paint Mixture....No singular off-the-shelf Paint is going to get it done....nor will doing it any other way than spraying it properly.``
Micro Texture is what is needed to prevent Hot Spotting (...especially on the ST 130 Clone ) and you get that by doing the application with multiple HVLP-applied Duster Coatings that gradually build up the overall coating.

Expensive? Hardly so considering what it is replacing and that size becomes almost a non-issue. Shipping in what you need from the US....been there and done that a great many times.

Germany is no issue....whatever the cost of the Paint, you'd add about $70.00 USD and you'd be set.

Let me say this....the original MississippiMud 1:1:1; was the application that was labeled a ST-130 Killer....all the back in 2003-2004. Things have only improved, so it's a given you'd get what your aiming for.

Here is the latest DIY version made from accessible components.

32 Oz. Rust-Oleum Whate Pearl
32 Oz. Dulux Light & Space Ultimate White "Matte"
32 Oz. Rust-Oleum Clear Matte Polyurethane

add to that:
12-16 Oz. Distilled or Filtered Water

Filter through a Nylon Mesh Paint Strainer Bag.

Apply it directly over the existing Screen....yep.....

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Nepomuk

Discussion Starter · #3 · Aug 6, 2021

Thanks very much MississippiMan!
The components seem to be even available over here luckily.

One more question, if you allow.
Is it possible to "patch" the 4x1 inch area or do I need to re-coat the entire screen for a perfect result? Its 10 feet wide 16:9.

Issue is, that I have no place to spray, just the same rather large room painted with active coal or balcony. Maybe build a room around the screen with painter's plastic sheets and use a better respirator..

Thank you so much

MississippiMan

· #4 · Aug 6, 2021 (Edited)

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MississippiMan

· #5 · Aug 6, 2021

You cannot patch.....the area repaired would be clearly visible.

Tenting the area around the Screen is how it's done. With the proper thinned mix and a HVLP Gun, each coat only takes about 30 seconds to apply on a 100" sized screen.
Go HERE

narhic_fd

· #6 · Aug 8, 2021

MississippiMan said:
Easy to reproduce (..as is also the ST 130 ) but it absolutely must be the right Paint Mixture....No singular off-the-shelf Paint is going to get it done....nor will doing it any other way than spraying it properly.``
Micro Texture is what is needed to prevent Hot Spotting (...especially on the ST 130 Clone ) and you get that by doing the application with multiple HVLP-applied Duster Coatings that gradually build up the overall coating.

Expensive? Hardly so considering what it is replacing and that size becomes almost a non-issue. Shipping in what you need from the US....been there and done that a great many times.

Germany is no issue....whatever the cost of the Paint, you'd add about $70.00 USD and you'd be set.

Let me say this....the original MississippiMud 1:1:1; was the application that was labeled a ST-130 Killer....all the back in 2003-2004. Things have only improved, so it's a given you'd get what your aiming for.

Here is the latest DIY version made from accessible components.

32 Oz. Rust-Oleum Whate Pearl
32 Oz. Dulux Light & Space Ultimate White "Matte"
32 Oz. Rust-Oleum Clear Matte Polyurethane

add to that:
12-16 Oz. Distilled or Filtered Water

Filter through a Nylon Mesh Paint Strainer Bag.

Apply it directly over the existing Screen....yep.....

Mississippi man, if I wanted to try this mixture what could I use to replace the Deluxe light & Space?? When I looked online, It appears that brand can't be found in the states. I live in NC and only have access to Lowes, Home depot, Ace Hardware and Sherwin Wilson.
I figured this mixture would be better then any other basic UPW paint seeing that its coming from the minds of the DIY screen experts. I figured it would be a good candidate for mirror LF(White Fusion) as well .

MississippiMan

· #7 · Aug 8, 2021

narhic_fd said:
Mississippi man, if I wanted to try this mixture what could I use to replace the Deluxe light & Space?? When I looked online, It appears that brand can't be found in the states. I live in NC and only have access to Lowes, Home depot, Ace Hardware and Sherwin Wilson.
I figured this mixture would be better then any other basic UPW paint seeing that its coming from the minds of the DIY screen experts. I figured it would be a good candidate for mirror LF(White Fusion) as well .

Well of course you can make it up using US-based paint.....after all that's where the Formula originates. As Far as Light Fusion on a Mirror, it was also the original coating before Silver entered into the equation.

Just use PPG Diamond Extra White Base1 for the White component. (PPG is at Home Depot)

narhic_fd

· #8 · Aug 8, 2021

MississippiMan said:
Well of course you can make it up using US-based paint.....after all that's where the Formula originates. As Far as Light Fusion on a Mirror, it was also the original coating before Silver entered into the equation.

Just use PPG Diamond Extra White Base1 for the White component. (PPG is at Home Depot)

Also, I have a Graco spray station 3900 with 2.0, 1.5 and 1.0 needle. Which needle would you advise to use. Would you advise me to use the same amount water mentioned above with my 3900 unit?

MississippiMan

· #9 · Aug 8, 2021

narhic_fd said:
Also, I have a Graco spray station 3900 with 2.0, 1.5 and 1.0 needle. Which needle would you advise to use. Would you advise me to use the same amount water mentioned above with my 3900 unit?

1.0 needle
Amount of water dependent upon the amount of mix. If it is a 3 Qt mix you should add 20-24 oz of water or whatever it takes to make the paint strain through the filter at the speed you already know.

Nepomuk

Discussion Starter · #10 · Aug 8, 2021

MississippiMan said:
You cannot patch.....the area repaired would be clearly visible.

Tenting the area around the Screen is how it's done. With the proper thinned mix and a HVLP Gun, each coat only takes about 30 seconds to apply on a 100" sized screen.
Go HERE

Makes sense. More wish full thinking on my end.
Will practice spraying on one of my black walls.
Thank you!

narhic_fd

· #11 · Aug 8, 2021

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1.0 needle
Amount of water dependent upon the amount of mix. If it is a 3 Qt mix you should add 20-24 oz of water or whatever it takes to make the paint strain through the filter at the speed you already know.
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Okay, got it. so when it comes to amount of water needed for the mix, I basically treat it the same way as if I was making a batch of Silver Fire...I add just enough water to where the paint is straining through mesh strainer at about the speed I'm pouring it through the mesh. Thanks for the info.

MississippiMan

· #12 · Aug 8, 2021

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narhic_fd

· #13 · Aug 9, 2021

MississippiMan said:
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For some reason, I've misplaced my 1.0 needle tip. I also have a 1.5 needle though and I hope that will suffice??? How diff should I treat things using the 1.5 needle vs the 1.0 needle??

MississippiMan

· #14 · Aug 10, 2021

narhic_fd said:
For some reason, I've misplaced my 1.0 needle tip. I also have a 1.5 needle though and I hope that will suffice??? How diff should I treat things using the 1.5 needle vs the 1.0 needle??

You should make a conspicuous effort to find that 1.0 needle.

Otherwise, you should increase speed and distance when painting.

narhic_fd

· #15 · Aug 10, 2021

MississippiMan said:
You should make a conspicuous effort to find that 1.0 needle.

Otherwise, you should increase speed and distance when painting.

If I'm forced to use the 1.5 needle, how far away should the gun tip be from the substrate I'm painting on??

MississippiMan

· #16 · Aug 11, 2021

Minimum 14" distance w/a minimum of 3' per second sweep and 60% overlap.

narhic_fd

· #17 · Aug 11, 2021

MississippiMan said:
Minimum 14" distance w/a minimum of 3' per second sweep and 60% overlap.

Thank you Mississippiman.

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