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So I arrived on Friday and saw some nice stuff

First off I saw the new Optoma HD81. Its the new 1080p single chip projector. The picture is beautiful and the scaler/switcher is separate from the projector and uses the new Gennum chip. Its got lot of inputs including 4 hdmi inputs.


1080p is the way to go and this projector will compete very nicely with the Sony Ruby

http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/500/optoma.jpg .


They have a black version and a white version

http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/500...toma_white.jpg


I also saw Sharp's new Z20000 1080p projector. Again the 1080p picture is absolutely fantastic. I have always loved Sharps 720p projectors and this one does not disappoint . I think MSRP will be 12999 more or less.

http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/500/medium/sharp1.jpg
 

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Although Marantz was supposed to show their new 1080p projector, they werent able to finish their prototype and instead of showing a incomplete projector they decided not to show it I did however take a picture of a model
http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/500/medium/marantz.jpg


Yamaha did not introduce any 1080p projectors. They are showing their lastest 720p projector. I think its the 13000

http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/500/medium/yamaha.jpg


On the Dwin front, they have completey discontinued the TV3e. They are now only producing the TV4 which has the Darkchip 2. They will be selling an upgraded version with the darkchip 3. Pricing will be approx 6K and 8K respectively

http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/500...m/dwin_tv4.jpg


Finally in the projector department, i have picture of the new Hitachi 3 chip LCD and Vidikron 3 chip 720p with anamorphic lens

http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/500.../Vik_3chip.jpg

http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/500/Hitachi_3_chip.jpg


Well thats it for now, I off to see Sim2 and Runco tommorrow.
 

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Hey Daniel thanks for the reviews. I know its hard to tell in those show conditions but would you say the hd81 has just as good a picture as RUBY or better in your opinion? This is assuming your familiar with the RUBY and have seen it in action. Thanks again for pics and reviews, I wish we could get more of these from the lucky ones who got to go.
 

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How adaptable is that external box? Just wondering if it will be able to expand the letterboxed 2.35:1 images so a panamorphic lens can be used? I know some of the other external boxes will do this... seems like this would be ideal. I understand the Gennum chip would handle this
 

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The H81 was amazing. The screen size was 135" stewart 1.3 gain and the picture was extremely bright and no visible pixels. It will ship late june. The projector was fed a 1080P signal from a PC so I could not comment on the scaling. This is one bad projector
 

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DLP was showing one on a screen that was 25' wide. But it was for cinema use and cost $155K. It looked good but there was a lot of light so the color looked washed out.
 

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no 3 chip dlp projectors except for the TI that they showed at CEDIA. One of the manufacturers told me that they would probably have a 3 chip dlp by the end of the 2006. Of course figure 2007


Unfortunately, Sony wasnt showing the Ruby and although they had a static version somewhere at the show, I couldnt find it. Now since its been three months since I saw the Ruby its hard to make a good comparison. However,after saying that, I think both units will be very competitive and will come too what kind of picture you like. Personally I would be happy with either projector. I would guess the one advantage that the Optoma has is that its a two part solution which in my opinion is great way to go
 

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Ok, the award for the supposedly best new projector that i didnt get to see is this new LCOS from a Chinese company (I think) Its supposed to be very comparable to to other 1080p LCoS projectors and is supposed to be price a lot less than the other Lcos companies. Unfortunately when I went to see it they had already switched it out and were using another projector. Some very well qualified avs people got to see it and they were very impressed by it


http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/500/medium/lcosA.jpg
 

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Daniel,


Thanks for the report.


"Personally I would be happy with either projector. "


Does that mean you didn't see rainbows on the HD81?


Thanks
 

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no 3 chip dlp projectors except for the TI that they showed at CEDIA. One of the manufacturers told me that they would probably have a 3 chip dlp by the end of the 2006. Of course figure 2007.
Wow...the end of 2006 or 1st quarter 2007. Which manufacturer that told you this time frame?


Thank you for the good report, by the way
 

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Daniel Hutnicki,


Did Toshiba or Canon show off their SED display this time around?


Any information when will they have it in the market?
 

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Both companies were showing the SED and I didnt get a chance to see it due to the long lines and to be honest I had no idea what it was. However, one of the guys from Sim2 saw it and Ofer the moderator from the plasma forum said they were outstanding. Could be a plasma\\DLP\\LCD killer in the rear projection world. First product out will be a 55 inch SED and supposedly pricing will be very aggressive. I dont remember what the timeline is for release


Dont want to mention who is working out with the three chip but he told me some interesting stuff.


The reason it took so long for the three chip 720p was due to the fact that TI held up on it so that they could establish the one chip 720p. Supposedly now, TI will have no issue with 3 chip 1080p plus now that they know how to do 3 chip 720p well, 3 chip 1080p wont be a a completely new thing for them.


The last piece of interesting info which I am not sure if I understood correctly or not was the 1080p chip set that the manufacturers currently have in their demo models are incomplete. They are all waiting for the complete chipset in order to finalize the projector. Once this is done, their shouldnt be any issues with rainbows. In other words, the projectors wont ship until the new chipset comes in. To prove his point, the TI one chip 1080p that they demo did not have any rainbows at all since it has the complete chip. Everyone right now is dong wobulation but that will be gone once the complete chip comes in. Thats was I understood from the conversation. I am not a technician so I might of misunderstood the converstation, but this is what I understood


In regards to the Optoma 81, no I didnt see any rainbows on it and I was amazed by the picture it had. They were showing the clip from Ice Age II
 
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