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DANLEY DTS-10 "SUPER SPUD DIY KIT
THE SALE IS BACK ON!!!
Back by extremely popular demand, the DTS-10 is available again for a limited time.
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Well guys, those of you who caught the hint from Ivan a few days ago had an idea where this was going. Danley will be releasing a DIY kit called the DTS-10 or "Super Spud". I'm not at liberty to disclose all aspects of this, but this is something that has been in development for months. Tom Danley came me and Ricci a little after my subwoofer meet and past that there were only a couple others that were included in the very private discussion about this. It's been a real honor talking back and forth with Tom on this. He is an absolute genius when it comes to audio and this will really show with this project. On to the goods...
This will be a kit flat packed with wood pre cut and should be very easy to assemble. I've seen the first drafts of the assembly instructions and anyone who has assembled a bookshelf or desk from Walmart should have no problem building this. It will be a tapped horn much like the original TH-SPUD, but with a lot more output and extension. This will be made exclusively for use in the home theater environment. The sub will incorporate 2-12" sub drivers in a tapped horn that will look a lot like the original SPUD, but larger. Dimensions will be approximately 45"x60"x16" so yes, this is a very large subwoofer, but the benefits are huge. Get to that in a minute. The primary application will be against a wall behind a projector screen, but placement as with all subwoofers is flexible. I would imagine a pair of these could be used under a couch much like the original spud for a very tactile heavy response.
The original idea for this sub was to get similar spl and sound as from the TH-50. Most of you have probably read what people thought of this monster from my GTG. It really is an spl beast. The part where Ricci and I came into the picture was to help with a better "home in room response" for something better suited to movie soundtracks but would also be no slouch in the music department. That's where the lower extension comes into play. We had originally wanted a low end "knee" of 15 hz to provide a nice room shaking ability. After Tom's first model he arrived at a low end knee of 14 hz. After some prototype testing today by Ivan outdoors 1/2 space real world measurement actually put that lower knee at 11 hz!! Getting onto the best part about this 11 hz is that its outdoor 1 meter measurement with 1 watt of input gave a sensitivity of 90 db at that 11 hz. The rolloff going up the frequency spectrum puts it at 100 db with 1 watt at 25 hz and an upper frequency of 110 db with 1 watt input at 80-100 hz. This should yield a very nice room response with very very high output.
I know this is still pretty sketchy, but a lot of this is still in the final development stages. It shouldn't be too long before all details are final on this and more can be released. The price is still yet to be determined, but it shouldn't be too bad. This thing will give anything else close to it's price a run for its money. For right now any questions, that we can or have the ability to answer, should be directed to me or Ricci. When more info becomes available I promise to pass it along. I just wanted to give everyone a heads up and get everyone's mouth watering. I know mine is.
Measurements done by Ricci via http://www.data-bass.com
DTS10 kit CEA2010 rms results at 2m gp
10.0hz- 90.9db
12.5hz- 102.1db
16.0hz- 114.5db
20.0hz- 116.1db
25.0hz- 117.7db
31.5hz- 115.8db
40.0hz- 120.0db
50.0hz- 123.4db
63.0hz- 125.1db
80.0hz- 132.5db
100hz- 131.6db
125hz- 128.1db
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Items you will need to buy to complete the kit
1. 44 tapered head 10-24 x 1" bolts for the access doors and mouth cover
2. 16 10-24 x 1 1/4" Philips head bolts to mount the speakers with lock washers
3. Speaker wire for inside the cabinet
4. 2-4 Binding posts for speaker wire to exit the cabinet
5. Plenty of glue. Most have used PL premium, but any wood bonding adhesive should work well.
6. At least one box of standard 1 1/4"-1 1/2" screws of your choice for assembling panels. Seems the best to use is square head screws.
Good advice from t6902wf.
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Pics Gallery
Assembly
This is the base panel. Notice everything is very precision cut so all you really have to do is glue and screw.
Both pieces of pre-assembly done.
Driver baffles.
One fold of the horn.
Stood up on its side to see another fold.
Getting the sides of the box on.
Closeup of the baffles.
Interior shot partially built.
Interior done
A little acoustic padding to take the higher frequencies
Finished product minus the panels
Add a can of soda on top to give better size reference
Tcarcio's
Rigma's slideshow
http://s62.photobucket.com/albums/h1...view=slideshow
Driver pics
Another happy owner
One of MKTheater's pair
More pics to follow.
Here's a list of links in this discussion that people may want to refer to. Thanks to LTD02 for compiling the list. If anyone else has any posts they want referenced let me know.
dts-10 impedance, prototype
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post17392166
josh ricci provides teaser (including frequency response of prototype)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post17386336
final dimensions, 44 x 59.5 x 16
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post17494196
view of internals
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post17394745
first pics of flat pack and prototype on dolly
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post17388406
danley replies (including dts-10 vs. th50 frequency response)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post17396395
contact danley sound labs 770-535-0204 http://www.danleysoundlabs.com/
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0#post17408450
danley replies (headroom)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post17409024
"we are not releasing plans"
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post17415521
danley replies (multiple subs smooth room modes)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...3#post17427393
input panel can be switched from one side to the other
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post17429394
danley replies (headroom)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post17430602
high pass or not?
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post17434127
danley replies (many topics)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post17439681
danley replies (loudness)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post17446315
danley replies (clipping)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post17448785
Link to the DTS-10 discussion at Home Theater Shack
http://www.hometheatershack.com/foru...tml#post201190
Link to the DTS-10 discussion at DIYAUDIO.com
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/subwo...it-making.html
Link to the DTS-10 discussion at Pro Sound Web forums.
"http://srforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/t/50331/0/"
build pictures of the first dts-10
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post17494105
initial placement recommendation
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post17510862
Tom Danley addresses a number of questions.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post17552206
ricci report: close mic response dts-10
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...3#post17556103
ricci report: initial listening opinions
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post17556295
ricci report: further dts-10 impressions and discussion of room effects
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post17564637
continued...
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post17564786
MKtheater initial measurements and listening impressions
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post17678176
Tom Danley advice on eq
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post17680176
THE SALE IS BACK ON!!!
Back by extremely popular demand, the DTS-10 is available again for a limited time.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Well guys, those of you who caught the hint from Ivan a few days ago had an idea where this was going. Danley will be releasing a DIY kit called the DTS-10 or "Super Spud". I'm not at liberty to disclose all aspects of this, but this is something that has been in development for months. Tom Danley came me and Ricci a little after my subwoofer meet and past that there were only a couple others that were included in the very private discussion about this. It's been a real honor talking back and forth with Tom on this. He is an absolute genius when it comes to audio and this will really show with this project. On to the goods...
This will be a kit flat packed with wood pre cut and should be very easy to assemble. I've seen the first drafts of the assembly instructions and anyone who has assembled a bookshelf or desk from Walmart should have no problem building this. It will be a tapped horn much like the original TH-SPUD, but with a lot more output and extension. This will be made exclusively for use in the home theater environment. The sub will incorporate 2-12" sub drivers in a tapped horn that will look a lot like the original SPUD, but larger. Dimensions will be approximately 45"x60"x16" so yes, this is a very large subwoofer, but the benefits are huge. Get to that in a minute. The primary application will be against a wall behind a projector screen, but placement as with all subwoofers is flexible. I would imagine a pair of these could be used under a couch much like the original spud for a very tactile heavy response.
The original idea for this sub was to get similar spl and sound as from the TH-50. Most of you have probably read what people thought of this monster from my GTG. It really is an spl beast. The part where Ricci and I came into the picture was to help with a better "home in room response" for something better suited to movie soundtracks but would also be no slouch in the music department. That's where the lower extension comes into play. We had originally wanted a low end "knee" of 15 hz to provide a nice room shaking ability. After Tom's first model he arrived at a low end knee of 14 hz. After some prototype testing today by Ivan outdoors 1/2 space real world measurement actually put that lower knee at 11 hz!! Getting onto the best part about this 11 hz is that its outdoor 1 meter measurement with 1 watt of input gave a sensitivity of 90 db at that 11 hz. The rolloff going up the frequency spectrum puts it at 100 db with 1 watt at 25 hz and an upper frequency of 110 db with 1 watt input at 80-100 hz. This should yield a very nice room response with very very high output.
I know this is still pretty sketchy, but a lot of this is still in the final development stages. It shouldn't be too long before all details are final on this and more can be released. The price is still yet to be determined, but it shouldn't be too bad. This thing will give anything else close to it's price a run for its money. For right now any questions, that we can or have the ability to answer, should be directed to me or Ricci. When more info becomes available I promise to pass it along. I just wanted to give everyone a heads up and get everyone's mouth watering. I know mine is.
Measurements done by Ricci via http://www.data-bass.com
DTS10 kit CEA2010 rms results at 2m gp
10.0hz- 90.9db
12.5hz- 102.1db
16.0hz- 114.5db
20.0hz- 116.1db
25.0hz- 117.7db
31.5hz- 115.8db
40.0hz- 120.0db
50.0hz- 123.4db
63.0hz- 125.1db
80.0hz- 132.5db
100hz- 131.6db
125hz- 128.1db
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Items you will need to buy to complete the kit
1. 44 tapered head 10-24 x 1" bolts for the access doors and mouth cover
2. 16 10-24 x 1 1/4" Philips head bolts to mount the speakers with lock washers
3. Speaker wire for inside the cabinet
4. 2-4 Binding posts for speaker wire to exit the cabinet
5. Plenty of glue. Most have used PL premium, but any wood bonding adhesive should work well.
6. At least one box of standard 1 1/4"-1 1/2" screws of your choice for assembling panels. Seems the best to use is square head screws.
Good advice from t6902wf.
Quote:
Originally Posted by t6902wf /forum/post/17898861
The only wood screws you need are to assemble the cabinet.
You need a 16 10-24 x 1-1/4" machine screws pan head to secure the drivers.
This is a pan head
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You need a quantity of 34 10-24 x1-1/4" machine screws flat head for the two access panels and to close off the mouth on the side you are not using.
This is a flat head
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I would use star washers on the drivers. It is overkill but it can't hurt. This is a star washer
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I forgot that you need something to attach the grill. It is also a 10-24 thread. It can be short say 1". I would wait until you have the sub it to pick what. The grill is black, you may want a black oxide finish on a flat head machine screw.
Good luck!
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Pics Gallery
Assembly
This is the base panel. Notice everything is very precision cut so all you really have to do is glue and screw.

Both pieces of pre-assembly done.


Driver baffles.

One fold of the horn.

Stood up on its side to see another fold.


Getting the sides of the box on.

Closeup of the baffles.

Interior shot partially built.

Interior done




A little acoustic padding to take the higher frequencies


Finished product minus the panels

Add a can of soda on top to give better size reference

Tcarcio's


Rigma's slideshow
http://s62.photobucket.com/albums/h1...view=slideshow
Driver pics


Another happy owner




One of MKTheater's pair

More pics to follow.
Here's a list of links in this discussion that people may want to refer to. Thanks to LTD02 for compiling the list. If anyone else has any posts they want referenced let me know.
dts-10 impedance, prototype
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post17392166
josh ricci provides teaser (including frequency response of prototype)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post17386336

final dimensions, 44 x 59.5 x 16
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post17494196
view of internals
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post17394745
first pics of flat pack and prototype on dolly
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post17388406
danley replies (including dts-10 vs. th50 frequency response)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post17396395
contact danley sound labs 770-535-0204 http://www.danleysoundlabs.com/
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0#post17408450
danley replies (headroom)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post17409024
"we are not releasing plans"
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post17415521
danley replies (multiple subs smooth room modes)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...3#post17427393
input panel can be switched from one side to the other
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post17429394
danley replies (headroom)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post17430602
high pass or not?
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post17434127
danley replies (many topics)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post17439681
danley replies (loudness)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post17446315
danley replies (clipping)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post17448785
Link to the DTS-10 discussion at Home Theater Shack
http://www.hometheatershack.com/foru...tml#post201190
Link to the DTS-10 discussion at DIYAUDIO.com
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/subwo...it-making.html
Link to the DTS-10 discussion at Pro Sound Web forums.
"http://srforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/t/50331/0/"
build pictures of the first dts-10
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post17494105
initial placement recommendation
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post17510862
Tom Danley addresses a number of questions.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post17552206
ricci report: close mic response dts-10
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...3#post17556103
ricci report: initial listening opinions
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post17556295
ricci report: further dts-10 impressions and discussion of room effects
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post17564637
continued...
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post17564786
MKtheater initial measurements and listening impressions
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post17678176
Tom Danley advice on eq
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post17680176