sorry all the method seems will cause some issue, I hereby remove it first and will share again once I figure out how to fix it.
^^ Great post for those who choose to use REW!!
I am still trying to get used to the Anthem AVM60 sound personally coming from a 8805 Marantz and other high end Dirac machines. I like to tinker with settings so I have of course tried limiting frequency cut off, full range eq, 5khz eq, etc. I think I definitely prefer the deep bass boost up to 80hz which is similar to what I did with Dirac (boosted harman curve) but not sure about the room gain setting (i have it set to 0).
The main thing I'm trying to get used to on the AVM60 is the softer mids and highs. They definitely seem a lot softer which is good for my sensitive ears but may not be as detailed by being softer. This may just need some getting used to. I know others have mentioned the mids and the highs were "dull" but then they tried another AVR and went back to the Anthem and appreciated it.
Since I have an untreated room, eqing up to around 5khz should be best and I'm very familiar with calibrating so I know my settings are as spot on as I can get them. Limiting the EQ doesn't seem to be a difference if at all because of my odd living room I'm assuming.
The main thing as i mentioned is i definitely think the ARC calibration is not accurately done. The high trim levels don't make sense and calibrating the subs to 75db is not accurate either. The subs are much hotter than other systems I've had, which is fine but I don't really trust the levels because of this. It also seems like reference level master volume is -10, not 0 like other systems I have had.
These are my short observations after owning a lot of other processors/AVRs. I definitely think the AVM60 has potential but something does seem missing. The detail is there and so is the bass. I just can't really put my finger on it. It is just much different sounding than other processors I've had.
Hey there and thank you for your reply!I compared with the both settings on high trim and highest freq eq (Flat + Max freq EQ vs. High trim roll off and 5K Max for eq as defaulted), I prefer Flat + Max freq EQ personally. The Room gain I left the default set by ARC as +6dB (crazy), I didn't use Deep Bass Boost but I added 3 dB to subwoofer in Anthem for more impact at last (I also tried added that 3dB in ARC but it caused me many side effect, I don't know why, but it was).
Sorry for misleading you:-Hey there and thank you for your reply!
So just to make sure I understand what worked best for you on your AVM60.
You have yours setup with these settings and like the sound:
-EQ set to 5khz
-Flat subwoofer curve
-ARCs calculated room gain (+6 for you)
-You manually add +3 to your subwoofer trim.
Does that sound right?
If so, my current settings are EQ to 5khz (I typically do EQ up to 20khz in other processors), flat subwoofer curve, 0.00 room gain, +6 Bass boost up to 80hz, and manually add +4 to subwoofer trim.
I have tried various settings and it seems the sound is good but has a much softer soubd for the mid and high end. I have read others have this experience but it grew on them.
I have measured all speakers and used time aligment tools in REW and then I input the calculated distance in Anthem and then measure again BUT I never get 0 delay when it should be.@chhanthony
Nice post (#2641)
Curious if you compared the distances found by your method to those that REW will calculate?
Also, wondering if you tried higher cross-over in sub (eg >120, I think the max is 200 in the Anthem) and other speakers at either higher (eg max in Anthem) or lower (off or 0 in Anthem) to see how that impacted bass integration at final cross-over?
Thank you for confirming. I am definitely going to try to do more tweaking, especially with the room gain. When I tried the room gain setting at various levels I didn't like that it also adds extra bass to the main speakers which seems more artifical compared to what I'm used to.Sorry for misleading you:-
1. All main speakers EQ until 20khz High Trim FLAT
2. Room Gain left at +6dB as ARC recommended (it will raised up the low freq from 200hz to 20hz, so it not only boost the subwoofer, it also boost the low frequencies in the main speakers)
3. Subwoofer curve I left at default as ARC recommended
4. Manually add 3dB to Subwoofer in Anthem channel level setting
If I feel dull and softer mid and high tone, I will lower the room gain.
Thank you. I already do this and have done it for awhile. I'm assuming that's probably why I don't hear too big of a difference from 300-500hz and 5khz. From what I could see on my graphs with Audyssey and Dirac with my speakers, it always seemed like around 300hz to 500hz would be the best spot to cut off the EQ. I ended up correcting a lot higher with Audyssey and Dirac most likely because of my odd shaped semi open room so I didn't know if there was something specific I was listening for lol. I know it is all subjective in the end.No specific content. I look at my curves and see where the measured isn't as smooth/flat below about 500 hz and beyond. I've got one to 250 hz and a second to 1 khz.
Note, you could also look at your curves for each speaker (pair) and see how flat they are beyond say 300 hz (and ignoring the roll off at the high end, if any). With Genesis, you can set correction level differently for each. EG, you can correct fronts to x hz, center to y, surrounds to z, etc.
Hey there,Dont worry about trying to maximize the number of filters. ARC seems smart enough to use them on the most important spots. If you have a challenging room, try correcting the full audible range. Luckily you can upload several different profiles and try them out and see what sounds best.
If they all sound similar, I'd limit it.Hey there,
I have tried various corrections, including correcting full range and they all sound similar. Does this mean I should go full range or limit it to where my curves don't really need as much correction? (After 300-500hz)?
Thank you! I'm still experimenting with them but it is very very difficult to tell a difference between them from my untrained ears.If they all sound similar, I'd limit it.
I will definitely give it a go with 2 channel music to see if I can see the differences. You're right, there is definitely a lot going on in movies so it definitely is difficult to pick up on the differences since they all sound pretty good. Thanks for the recommendation!Try listening to two channel music. If there are any kinds of music you like with natural instruments (jazz, classical, movie scores, folk, etc) recorded in a natural space all together, that will be best. A movie soundtrack is really hard to judge by using a short snippet. But our ears are attuned to what physical instruments sound like and what hearing them in a room sounds like, so you are giving yourself a better chance to notice differences.