Since you are on the pj forum you can guess what most around here would say. But as someone who owns both a pioneer elite plasma and a now dead older pj, I can tell you that for me the pj would win this debate 100 times out of 100.
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Dedicated room, $3K: 70" plasma or JVC DLA RSXX
We just moved into a house with a nice dedicated theatre room in the basement.
It presently has an older Panasonic ceiling mounted digital projector and a 100" screen. Unfortunately, the color on it has shifted terribly and everything has a yellow tinge to it. I'm pretty sure it needs to be replaced.
The room cannot be totally darkened as the stairway going into the basement allows some light in during the day, but not much. At night its pretty much totally dark.
We have a 55" Samsung LCD TV in the family room upstairs and a couple 42" LCDs elsewhere.
We would use the room to watch movies and some broadcast TV, most of which is high quality 720 and full HD.
My budget is about $3K.
If you were me, would you install a new JVC DLA RSxx projector or wait for a good (Samsung ?) 70 inch plasma TV ?
Thanks !
It presently has an older Panasonic ceiling mounted digital projector and a 100" screen. Unfortunately, the color on it has shifted terribly and everything has a yellow tinge to it. I'm pretty sure it needs to be replaced.
The room cannot be totally darkened as the stairway going into the basement allows some light in during the day, but not much. At night its pretty much totally dark.
We have a 55" Samsung LCD TV in the family room upstairs and a couple 42" LCDs elsewhere.
We would use the room to watch movies and some broadcast TV, most of which is high quality 720 and full HD.
My budget is about $3K.
If you were me, would you install a new JVC DLA RSxx projector or wait for a good (Samsung ?) 70 inch plasma TV ?
Thanks !
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Everything is relative. I can tell you that when I go from watching a movie on a 120" 2.35:1 screen to watching a movie on my Sharp 70" display, the Sharp seems dwarfed. If you want the cinematic experience, use a projector and screen. If you want to watch a big TV, get a big TV.
Projector all the way, no contest when considering a dedicated room. There are a lot of new projectors coming out (cedia) and there should be several around your budget that will just blow you away.
If you are really after a home cinema experience, rather than just a basement TV room, then a front projector is the way to go. I currently have two houses with dedicated home theaters in each. I'm using 120" 16x9 screens in each of these with a seating distance of 12 ft to 13 ft. However, in one house I also have 70" LCoS 1080p rear projection TV (RPTV) in the family room and in the other have I have a living room with a 65" DLP 1080p RPTV. For regular TV viewing we use the RPTVs, but for movies and a few of our favorite TV dramas and some sports I move to the home theater.
Also if you have an interest in 3D then big is better to give you the cinema experience. I'm using a JVC RS40 in one of my home theaters and we enjoy it for both 2D and 3D. However, at his point there are many new 3D projectors that are either just starting to ship or will be shipping between now and the end of the year. These start with what is probably the biggest bang for the buck for a 1080p 3D projector, the Optoma HD33 (review coming next week on www.projectorreviews.com ) with a list price of only $1499 and moving upward in price get you to new projectors that include the now shipping Sony VPL-HW30ES and the upcoming (shipping next month) Panasonic PT-AE7000 (both with list prices near $3.5K but expected street prices, especially for the Panasonic, near $3K). The CEDIA trade show is just 2 1/2 weeks away and JVC and Epson (among others) will be announcing new 3D models that are expected to begin shipping by the end of 2011. So I suggest you start doing your planning now, including determining the right screen size for your room, and then hold off a few weeks (after the news from CEDIA is posted) to decide which projector will best fit your needs. Here are a few questions:
What is your room size, including ceiling height?
What are the physical restrictions on max. screen size for the wall where the screen will be mounted?
What will be the seating arrangement and also what is the distance from where the screen will be located to the seating?
Do you plan to mount the projector to the ceiling and are there any issues/restrictions on where you can mount the projector?
What color are the walls and ceiling (and is painting them a dark color an option)?
Also if you have an interest in 3D then big is better to give you the cinema experience. I'm using a JVC RS40 in one of my home theaters and we enjoy it for both 2D and 3D. However, at his point there are many new 3D projectors that are either just starting to ship or will be shipping between now and the end of the year. These start with what is probably the biggest bang for the buck for a 1080p 3D projector, the Optoma HD33 (review coming next week on www.projectorreviews.com ) with a list price of only $1499 and moving upward in price get you to new projectors that include the now shipping Sony VPL-HW30ES and the upcoming (shipping next month) Panasonic PT-AE7000 (both with list prices near $3.5K but expected street prices, especially for the Panasonic, near $3K). The CEDIA trade show is just 2 1/2 weeks away and JVC and Epson (among others) will be announcing new 3D models that are expected to begin shipping by the end of 2011. So I suggest you start doing your planning now, including determining the right screen size for your room, and then hold off a few weeks (after the news from CEDIA is posted) to decide which projector will best fit your needs. Here are a few questions:
What is your room size, including ceiling height?
What are the physical restrictions on max. screen size for the wall where the screen will be mounted?
What will be the seating arrangement and also what is the distance from where the screen will be located to the seating?
Do you plan to mount the projector to the ceiling and are there any issues/restrictions on where you can mount the projector?
What color are the walls and ceiling (and is painting them a dark color an option)?
Remember that size is an inverse square. 120" is four times large area than 60inch.
So a 120" is about 75% bigger than 70" rough numbers.
As many in a projector forum, including me, will say 120 is much more theater like than 70.
So a 120" is about 75% bigger than 70" rough numbers.
As many in a projector forum, including me, will say 120 is much more theater like than 70.
Great posts, guys. Thanks, I really appreciate it.
I wanted to hear that the IQ of the projectors wasn't inferior to the flat screens as the salesmen tell me. But what would they know about the IQ of a high quality projector ?
I can easily hold off on getting a projector until these new models start shipping. We watched Lincoln Lawyer with the existing projector last night and it was tolerable.
I'm surprised to find that my wife really likes the theatre room. Its great to get that cinema experience in your own house without driving anywhere, without having to get a babysitter.
I wanted to hear that the IQ of the projectors wasn't inferior to the flat screens as the salesmen tell me. But what would they know about the IQ of a high quality projector ?
I can easily hold off on getting a projector until these new models start shipping. We watched Lincoln Lawyer with the existing projector last night and it was tolerable.
I'm surprised to find that my wife really likes the theatre room. Its great to get that cinema experience in your own house without driving anywhere, without having to get a babysitter.
Hands down a JVC projector. I heard too many times I heard that picture quality goes down when watching a projector. It's just stupid
I'll join the chorus. Simply put, projecting the image on the wall/screen is like watching a movie, watching a TV on the wall is like watching a TV even if the images are the same size. We have all been conditioned that movies are projected and there is just something about a projected image that cannot be replicated by a TV, even if it is just our own bias showing.
I think the TV look is partly from the screen type of the TV. Even the ones that are not real glossy, you still get a feeling that you are looking at glass. With a projected image, you don't get that feeling.
Just IMHO.
Just IMHO.
I went through the plasma/pj debate myself recently. It was a panny 65" vs. a JVC pj. The pj won. Even with my "small" (80") screen, that's still a lot bigger than 65". Another thing...it's a hellava lot easier bringing that pj down the basement steps than a plasma. Even my old 50" plasma was a pain lugging up and down those stairs. A 65" plasma would be far worse.
Yes, really no comparison. Going from my 65" TV to a 106" projector screen was amazing. Nothing like the big screen.
Also, don't limit yourself to a JVC projector. They are great, but there are some very good LCD and DLP machines out there too.
Epson and Panasonic LCDs are very popular.
The new Epson reflective LCD models look instesting, assuming they really do hit the US shelves.
DLP's are also very popular.
Dan
Also, don't limit yourself to a JVC projector. They are great, but there are some very good LCD and DLP machines out there too.
Epson and Panasonic LCDs are very popular.
The new Epson reflective LCD models look instesting, assuming they really do hit the US shelves.
DLP's are also very popular.
Dan
Mitsubishi 82" WD-82740. EBay has some great pricing. The 840 might even be up your alley depending on features you're looking for.
you should also consider the running costs,ie. changing light, filters etc. on the pj.
The TV's that have been suggested (over 70" and under 3k) to use in place of a projector are large DLP TV,s so the poster would still be dealing with lamps either way. Under 3k and over 70", only thing out there close to his price range is DLP.
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you should also consider the running costs,ie. changing light, filters etc. on the pj.
The TV's that have been suggested (over 70" and under 3k) to use in place of a projector are large DLP TV,s so the poster would still be dealing with lamps either way. Under 3k and over 70", only thing out there close to his price range is DLP.
I know its hard to keep up, but Sharp is selling their energy efficient 70" 735 LED/LCD flat panel with 3D for $3.5K. It look excellent even in a well lit room. I like the tangy color, contrast and very pure whites.
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Originally Posted by mjg100 /forum/post/20861000
The TV's that have been suggested (over 70" and under 3k) to use in place of a projector are large DLP TV,s so the poster would still be dealing with lamps either way. Under 3k and over 70", only thing out there close to his price range is DLP.
I know its hard to keep up, but Sharp is selling their energy efficient 70" 735 LED/LCD flat panel with 3D for $3.5K. It look excellent even in a well lit room. I like the tangy color, contrast and very pure whites.
Why would you go from a few 42"s and a 55" to a 70" unless you are going for the bubushka effect?
All those TVs are only marginally larger. Plus it sounds like the dedicated room won't get as much use as the other TVs so lamp replacement goes down the priority list, although once your family sees the massive 100" projector image that makes the other TVs seem like postage stamps, the usage may change.
All those TVs are only marginally larger. Plus it sounds like the dedicated room won't get as much use as the other TVs so lamp replacement goes down the priority list, although once your family sees the massive 100" projector image that makes the other TVs seem like postage stamps, the usage may change.
I have not called anybody to see if you can get better prices, but what I have found on line was over 3k. I did find it for 3.3k. I will have to admit that I did not realize that 70" LED LCD TV's had come down that much in price.
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Originally Posted by HiFiFun /forum/post/20863338
I know its hard to keep up, but Sharp is selling their energy efficient 70" 735 LED/LCD flat panel with 3D for $3.5K. It look excellent even in a well lit room. I like the tangy color, contrast and very pure whites.
I have not called anybody to see if you can get better prices, but what I have found on line was over 3k. I did find it for 3.3k. I will have to admit that I did not realize that 70" LED LCD TV's had come down that much in price.
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