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So here's the situation - we're building a new house and I'm getting a dedicated theater space for 100% movie viewing. Will be 16x21 with ceiling probably 11ft. Current theater has B&W CM9 fronts, CMC2 center, DS3 surrounds, Submersive HP+ sub. As this will be a dedicated theater, I want to do a false wall and AT screen. That means I can switch to 'ugly' speakers, and I am considering 2 paths: JTR 228 LCR with Single 8 back/surrounds vs a Klipsch Ultra2 setup. The submersive will stay :)

The decision point is that the Klipsch setup is only 56% of the cost of the JTR setup, so it is compelling financially to go with the Klipsch setup. Even more compelling is sticking to the B&W's, but I think in the long run they simply won't provide enough volume for the new room, and I'd like to get the setup right the first time (dont want to install speakers only to replace them soon thereafter as this room will be built soundproof).


For those who've had experience with these systems, what would your recommendations be? I am not able to audition these setups anywhere locally that I know of.
 

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MSRP of the Klipsch system is equivalent to the 228HT. Massive discounts are readily available on the Klipsch products however.
 

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Originally Posted by jparker36  /t/1523215/dedicated-theater-speakers-current-b-w-vs-klipsch-vs-jtr#post_24500795


MSRP of the Klipsch system is equivalent to the 228HT. Massive discounts are readily available on the Klipsch products however.

The Klipsch KL-650-THX speakers can be had for about $500 less per speaker over the 228HT's. I've heard both and IMHO the 228HT's sound better, they just seem to everything better then the KL-650's. That's not to say the Ultra 2's aren't a good speaker, I just feel for me the 228's are worth the extra money. And if they weren't I would have sold my 228's by now and gone with the Ultra 2's.


There is great alternatives to use over the S8's for surrounds though that combined with the 228HT's could easily bring the pricing back inline to what a Klipsch system would cost you.


If you want to hear anymore from me shoot me a pm, I don't really want to start a battle in your thread and anytime anyone seems to have anything other then "they sound awesome" with regards to Klipsch speakers some people seem to get their noses bent a little.
 

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Oh I've never heard the B&W's CM9's, but from looking at the specs I think they'd have a hard time keeping up with either the Ultra 2's or JTR for movie use. I'm sure they would sound good for music though.
 

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I would stick with JTR, but you could save some money on surrounds. The JBL 8320 are $500/pair, and are THX certified and work very well for surrounds. You can get all 4 for the price of one Single 8, so this lets you get a better front sound stage.
 

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Appreciate the suggestions. The 228HT + JBL 8320 combo sounds interesting for sure and only a bit more than the full klipsch setup.

Any suggestions for surrounds similar to the 8320 but which are more of a box design (aka will work better to integrate into a column like the JTR or Klipsch would).


Thanks!
 

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Based on a modified design direction, I think the leading candidates now are to have JBL 8320 surrounds with JBL 3252N LCR. I have the space for them, and from all I can tell these speakers are just amazing for theater when combined with good subs. Plus, we're talking a major savings over JTR or the Klipsch which goes right into the budget for everything else in the house.
 

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Here's a wildcard idea just 'cause nobody's mentioned it yet ...


Buy a third CM9 to use as a center (the CMC2 center was the weak link in the fronts, this solves that).

Then, use the CMC2 as a single rear surround with the DS3's as side surrounds for a 6.1 setup. (Less expensive option, easy to upgrade later.)


Your room is narrow enough a 6.1 setup (i.e. single rear surround) should work fine.


Not dissing any of the other recommendations but based on personal experience I'd recommend hearing horn speakers (the Klipch or JBL) before buying if possible. Especially if you're used to, and like the sound of, a speaker like the B&W CM series.
 

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I agree keeping the B&W would be the cheapest option, but my wife has already claimed the CM9s for the living room (we listen to music almost always when we're home).

I've heard horns and for a theater, I'm happy with the direction of the JBLs. If for some reason I hate them, I'll change later on the JTRs which could retain the mounting positions I'll be using.
 

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I have to agree, JTR horns sound different from others. Granted I've only heard some of the DIY horn speakers and Klipsch Ultra 2's along with RF7's and RC64 centre channel. Of all the horns that I've heard the JTR's were the least bright.
 

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Originally Posted by jbrown15  /t/1523215/dedicated-theater-speakers-current-b-w-vs-klipsch-vs-jtr#post_24513264


I have to agree, JTR horns sound different from others. ...
+1 Why I excluded them from my horn's speaker concern
 

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Originally Posted by jparker36  /t/1523215/dedicated-theater-speakers-current-b-w-vs-klipsch-vs-jtr#post_24513058


I agree keeping the B&W would be the cheapest option, but my wife has already claimed the CM9s for the living room (we listen to music almost always when we're home).

I've heard horns and for a theater, I'm happy with the direction of the JBLs. If for some reason I hate them, I'll change later on the JTRs which could retain the mounting positions I'll be using.

Ah - must have missed that re the B&W CM's.


Solid plan
 

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Yeah, I told her I was looking at new speakers. After I got the death glare I showed her how cheap the JBLs are, and she said oh well then we can move the CMs to the new living room. Crisis averted. I think because she saw me looking at some Aerial 20Ts she thought new speakers meant 30k...
 

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For a dedicated theater setup I would definitely recommend a high efficiency speaker setup. Something from JTR, or some of the Klipsch Heritage series would be good. You could always go with the Seos speakers which would stomp the Klipsch and depending on which model of the Seos you go with, they could compete with, or surpass the 228's! I even know someone who will build and finish a set of Seos speakers for you! (If you would like to contact him, send me a PM) The Seos setup would be way way less money than the JTR or Ultra-2 setup for what would likely be a big step up from the Klipsch and could easily match or surpass the JTR's. You could even go with duel subs and still cost less!
 

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For a dedicated theater setup I would definitely recommend a high efficiency speaker setup. Something from JTR, or some of the Klipsch Heritage series would be good. You could always go with the Seos speakers which would stomp the Klipsch and depending on which model of the Seos you go with, they could compete with, or surpass the 228's! I even know someone who will build and finish a set of Seos speakers for you! (If you would like to contact him, send me a PM) The Seos setup would be way way less money than the JTR or Ultra-2 setup for what would likely be a big step up from the Klipsch and could easily match or surpass the JTR's. You could even go with duel subs and still cost less!

I'll have a chance to directly compare my 228HT's to some Tempest's very soon. While I'm sure they will sound awesome, I'd honestly be a little surprised if they surpass the 228's. I say that just based on the quality of components used in the 228's the compression drivers alone are $200 from BMS and Jeff from JTR is a crossover wizard. It should be fun no matter what. If they did sound better I could even see myself selling my 228's



But they would have to be a total step up.
 
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