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In the Definitive Technology Owners Thread, the Mythos comments seem few and far between compared with the bipolar line comments; hence, this thread. Please feel free to post any comments/questions/pictures regarding the Definitive Technology Mythos line of speakers. There is a very helpful group on this thread that answers questions quickly, so please jump right in!




Here are some links to infomation on the Mythos Line: (If you have any links to add, please PM me)



OFFICIAL WEBSITE for Mythos speakers:

Official Definitive Technology Mythos Site



PROFESSIONAL REVIEWS of various Mythos speakers/systems:

Various Mythos Reviews in pdf form (Old Definitive Technoology Website)

Mythos 1, Mythos 3, Mythos 2, no sub (Home Entertainment Magazine, 2004)

Mythos 1, Mythos 3, Mythos 2, SuperCube I (Home Theater Review.com, 2004)

Mythos 4, Mythos 3, Mythos 2, Mythos Gem, SuperCube II (HomeTheater Magazine, 2004)

Mythos 4, Mythos 3, Mythos 2, SuperCube II (TechRadar, 2005)

Mythos 8 system, no sub (Audio/Visual Revolution, 2007)

Mythos 2, Mythos 3, SuperCube I (Sound & Vision, 2004)

Mythos 2, Mythos 3, SuperCube III (Home Theater Review.com, 2008)

Mythos Gem, Mythos 7, SuperCube III (Sound & Vision, 2005)

Mythos ST, Mythos 10, Mythos Gem XL, no sub (UltimateAV Magazine, 2007)

Mythos ST, Mythos 10, no sub (Audio/Visual Revolution, 2008)

Mythos ST, Mythos 8, Mythos Gem, no sub (HomeTheater Magazine, 2007)

Mythos ST (2 speakers, no sub then briefly with Snell & Velodyne system) (Sound & Vision, 2007)

Mythos ST (2 speakers, no sub) (Home Entertainment Magazine, 2008)

Mythos STS (2 speakers, no sub) (Stereophile, 2008)

Mythos STS (2 speakers, no sub) (SoundStage!, 2008)

Mythos STS, Mythos 9, Mythos Gem, no sub (Sound & Vison, 2009) (from MacFan424)

Mythos STS (2 speakers, no sub) (Secrets of Home Theater and High Fidelity, 2009) (from MacFan424)

Mythos STS, Mythos 9, Mythos Gem, no sub (HomeTheater Magazine, 2009)

Mythos SSA-50, ProSub 800 (HomeTheater Magazine, 2008)



PICTURES of Mythos Speaker Systems (Please post your pics below or PM me the link)

The-Royale-One Home Theater (Mythos 1, Mythos 3, Mythos 2, SuperCube I)

Smgluck's Media Room (Mythos 1, Mythos Gem, SuperCube I)

Lorelevitt's System (Mythos 1, Mythos 8, SuperCube I)

Caesar V's System (Mythos ST, Mythos 3)

DoingOK's System (Mythos 1, Mythos 3, Mythos 2, Gem XL, Epik Castle (concealed)

DoingOK's System Connection detail (biwiring, locking banana plugs, rear speakers)

Larry M's System (Mythos ST, Mythos 10, Gem XL, SuperCube Reference)

Mantis10's System (Mythos ST, Mythos 10 (x3), no sub)

bigAWL's System (Mythos 2, Mythos 3, Gem XL, SVS SB12Plus)

MD Boy's System (Mythos 1, Mythos 9, PA-120)

Thrang's System (Mythos ST, BP center/surrounds, SuperCube I, JL Fathom 113)

dbrunona's System (Mythos 9 (x3), Gem, SuperCube III)

aznative's System (Mythos 1 (x2), Mythos 3, Mythos 2 (x2), SuperCube II)

British Definitive Technology Mythos Site--has a gallery with some Mythos pictures not on the US site



HELPFUL INFORMATION and FACTOIDS for Mythos Speakers

Downloadable manuals for Mythos Line


Frequency Responses: (Still trying to find more independently measured FR's--please PM me if you can acquire them)


Mythos 1: 57 Hz - 20 kHz, +/- 3 dB (from DT via otk)

Mythos 3: 100 Hz - 20 kHz, +/- 3 dB (from DT via MacFan424)

Mythos 3: 74 Hz - 20 kHz, +/- 3 dB (from DT via jgeorg5)**

Mythos 8: 58 Hz - 20 kHz, +/- 3 dB (from DT via jgeorg5)**

Mythos 9: 100 Hz - 17.2 kHz, +/- 5.2 dB (from S & V via MacFan424)

Mythos 9: 60Hz - 20 kHz, +/- 3 dB (from DT via jgeorg5)**

Mythos 9: 200 Hz - 10 kHz, +1.00/-1.80 dB; -3 dB point is at 96 Hz; -6 dB point is at 77 Hz (from HT, 3/09)

Mythos 10: 52Hz - 20 kHz, +/- 3dB (from DT via jgeorg5)**

Mythos Gem: 161 Hz -18.5 kHz, +/- 4.6 dB (from S & V via MacFan424)

Mythos Gem: 200 Hz - 10 kHz, +2.78/-1.42 dB; -3 dB point is at 38 Hz; -6 dB point is at 139 Hz (from HT, 3/09)

Mythos ST: 24 Hz - 20 kHz, +/- 3 dB (from DT via otk)

Mythos STS: 28 Hz - 20 kHz, +/- 3 dB (from DT via MacFan424)

Mythos STS: 30 Hz -30 kHz, +/- 5.3 dB (from S & V via MacFan424)

Mythos STS: Tweeter/MR: 200 Hz - 10kHz, +1.57/-2.43 dB; -3 dB point is at 144 Hz; -6 dB point is at 118 Hz; Integrated Sub: 38 Hz - 111 Hz, - 3 dB using LFE input; -6 dB point is at 29 Hz (from HT, 3/09)



** From Def Tech (via jgeorg5): "These measurements were taken [in the DT anechoic chamber] with a microphone placed 1 meter away from the front of the speaker (which was placed on the floor). There was no reflective sound from the walls. However, there was a sound reflection from the floor."


Recommended Crossover Settings (per Official DT Mythos website) --props to rnrn for the suggestion!


Mythos 1: 60 Hz

Mythos 2: 100 Hz

Mythos 3: 100 Hz

Mythos 4: 100 Hz

Mythos 5: 120 Hz

Mythos 7: 140 Hz

Mythos 8: 80 Hz

Mythos 9: 60 Hz (per Chet at DT via ckelly33)

Mythos 10: 60 Hz

Mythos Gem: 120 Hz

Mythos GemXL: 80 Hz

Mythos STS: Large, Full bandwidth

Mythos ST: Large, Full bandwidth

Mythos Driver Size Comparison Chart (by bigAWL)

+/- 3db Responses for Mythos 1 and Mythos ST (including some other Definitive Technology Speakers as well)

Mantis10's methods to setup Mythos ST/STS speakers

How to use banana plugs with wall mounted Mythos 8's--pictures

Ascen5sion's tip on how to remove broken grille plugs from Mythos speaker -- verified by rnrn

Texasveteran's unpacking photos for the Mythos ST speakers
 

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Using Mythos Ones for the front R/L and Mythos Three for center channel:





Mythos Twos for the side surrounds and Gem XL's for the rear surrounds:



Using the Epik Castle subwoofer built into the space under the stairs (girlfriend acceptance factor):





Very happy with the setup and it is rather unobtrusive and looks very nice. I am using 10 gauge Blue Jeans speaker wire and locking banana plugs throughout. I am using a Sony BDP 550 BluRay player and a Sony STR DA5300ES AV receiver feeding a Sony 52" XBR LCD. I'm using the CLOS remote motorized TV mount.....love it. I have an Emotiva UPA7 amplifier that I will be hooking up this weekend.
 

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Originally Posted by mvp2005fan /forum/post/15394030


I was wondering if there were enough interest from Mythos owners to discuss this line of speakers in a separate thread. (Perhaps there are more of you now since many of the aluminum finished speakers have gone on sale at the end of 2008.)

What is the sale on the aluminum speakers? Are they being discontinued?


I was at my local store on the weekend because I'm very close to buying a Mythos STS x2, Mythos 3, and Mythos Gem XL x2, and the guy didn't mention anything about a discount for the aluminum finish. I didn't purchase anything because they actually increased the price of the STS from $3500 to $4000 (this is CDN $$$) since last month.
 

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I noticed the last week of October, many of the on-line authorized Def Tech dealers were marking down the aluminum finish Mythos speakers compared with the black finish.


When I inquired to Def Tech directly, I was told by a Def Tech customer support person that: "The Mythos Two Silvers are discontinued", which he implied was the reason for the discount.


I do not know the exact status of the others in the line, and I have also noticed (as you pointed out) the STS and ST lines do not show the aluminum price difference compared to the black.


Subsequently, I have noted that some of these same dealers no longer have some of the aluminum finish Mythos speakers in stock (although I have been successful in getting one dealer to order 3 of the Mythos 8's for me). The discounts for the aluminum finish for the non-ST/STS Mythos speakers persist at this time.


Hope that helps.


(I have read the STS's are very, very nice (Stereophile seemed to love them in their review).)
 

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Glad to see this tread. I've thought about starting one, but was too lazy.
The main DefTech thread is fine, but Mythos discussion gets buried, as there don't seem to be many of us compared to owners of the "regular" DefTech lines.


FWIW, I have a pair of STS's in front and a Mythos Three in the center. I'm absolutely thrilled with them. For me, the reviewers' extravagant praise seems to be fully justified.


Previously, I had tried many speakers over the years and became convinced I'd never get high quality sound in my room, which is an acoustical nightmare (all glass and hard surfaces, even a concrete floor; no draperies, leather furniture, only a small area rug, open to a kitchen
). I now have a HT system that is competitive with (although very different from) my older, music only system (McIntosh, Luxman, etc.) which is installed in a much more acoustical friendly environment.


The rest of my HT system consists of a pair of SVS subs controlled by a Velodyne SMS-1 (yielding flat response below 15Hz) and four legacy Cambridge Soundworks Newton speakers in the rear. I remain of mixed mind about "upgrading" the rears to Gem XL's, as I'm unconvinced I'd hear much of an improvement, at least not proportionate to the cost. (The Newtons blend inconspicuously with the fronts in actual real world movie and music usage, even though they have a different sonic signature and are not in the same league as the Mythos. This is no doubt largely due to the adjustments made by my Pioneer Elite VSX-01TX's MCACC system.)


BTW, I was able to convince my local Magnolia to match the aluminum closeout pricing on the Three, even though I got a black one. I was lucky and found a great deal on a pair of flawless, nearly new floor model STS's at Abt, too.
 

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Originally Posted by mvp2005fan /forum/post/15399568


I noticed the last week of October, many of the on-line authorized Def Tech dealers were marking down the aluminum finish Mythos speakers compared with the black finish.


When I inquired to Def Tech directly, I was told by a Def Tech customer support person that: "The Mythos Two Silvers are discontinued", which he implied was the reason for the discount.


I do not know the exact status of the others in the line, and I have also noticed (as you pointed out) the STS and ST lines do not show the aluminum price difference compared to the black.


Subsequently, I have noted that some of these same dealers no longer have some of the aluminum finish Mythos speakers in stock (although I have been successful in getting one dealer to order 3 of the Mythos 8's for me). The discounts for the aluminum finish for the non-ST/STS Mythos speakers persist at this time.


Hope that helps.


(I have read the STS's are very, very nice (Stereophile seemed to love them in their review).)

I bought a closeout pair of Mythos One's in October from 6th Ave locally for
 

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Originally Posted by Macfan424 /forum/post/15423215


BTW, I was able to convince my local Magnolia to match the aluminum closeout pricing on the Three, even though I got a black one. I was lucky and found a great deal on a pair of flawless, nearly new floor model STS's at Abt, too.
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I bought a closeout pair of Mythos One's in October from 6th Ave locally for
 

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I have the Mythos ST's mated to a Mythos TEN center Channel and GEM XL surrounds. Wandering from the folks with the Mythos ST's, what is your level setting for the powered sub-woofer. I have mine set at the 12 o'clock position. I had it at the one o'clock position and found the bass to be too much and muddied up the sound.
 

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I have the Mythos ST's mated to a Mythos TEN center Channel and GEM XL surrounds. Wandering from the folks with the Mythos ST's, what is your level setting for the powered sub-woofer. I have mine set at the 12 o'clock position. I had it at the one o'clock position and found the bass to be too much and muddied up the sound.

that's going to vary for everyone depending on room size, acoustics and listening preferences


by the way, i was in Howell last night
 

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...I'm thinking about putting together links for various useful reviews on Mythos stuff as well as certain posts that list information about the various speakers in the line. Does anyone else think that would be helpful to have in this thread?

I had the same thought. Yes, I think those kinds of links improve any thread like this.


My suggestion would be to incorporate them into your initial post so they are easy for people to find.
 

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I'd be interested to know what crossovers you are using for your Mythos Ones--DT suggest 80Hz, but some professional reviews have gone lower--any thoughts? What did the Pioneer auto-equalizer set it at?

It set mine to 80Hz which is where I left it. Also set them to large, but I changed them to small so that I could use the sub for music. I have gone to pure direct for music at times and the bass response from the One's alone is pretty good, but probably not as low as the specs would suggest. They are very nice sounding speakers though.
 

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Originally Posted by trailblazer /forum/post/15430755


I have the Mythos ST's mated to a Mythos TEN center Channel and GEM XL surrounds. Wandering from the folks with the Mythos ST's, what is your level setting for the powered sub-woofer. I have mine set at the 12 o'clock position. I had it at the one o'clock position and found the bass to be too much and muddied up the sound.

As otk said, there is no one size fits all answer. It's very room and placement dependent, even if you remove personal preferences from the equation (i.e. calibrate for flat response).


FWIW, the DefTech recommended 1:00 setting turned out to be perfect in my room. I always try to calibrate bass as flat as possible using both an SPL meter and SMS-1. Based on a reviewer's comment, I had initially trimmed my STS's amp down to 11:00, but that resulted in a very weak response in my setup. I moved it up to 12:00, but it was still lacking. At 1:00, it not only measures well on my SPL meter, my SMS-1 analyzer shows a nearly perfect (flat) response down to ~30Hz.
 

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I've been considering a setup with four Mythos Gems, Mythos Seven center and a SCIII. Has anyone heard something like this? My alternative would be the Pro Cinema line, some mix of 800s and 1000s, which would be cheaper. I'd probably still go with the SCIII with those instead of the Pro Sub. Unfortunately, I live in Africa and don't have access to a listening room without jumping on an airplane.


My point of reference is an old set of Bose 301s (which I'm fairly happy with for stereo), Bose VCS-10 center (awful), and Bose 100 surrounds (also awful). No Sub. I really have no idea what kind of sound to expect from the different Definitive lines. Of course, no one can tell me what I would like, but I'd love to hear personal opinions.


Also what does it do to the Mythos Gem sound if you set it on a bookshelf?
 

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I've been considering a setup with four Mythos Gems, Mythos Seven center and a SCIII. Has anyone heard something like this?

Hi, bigAWL


Here is a link to a Sound and Vision review of the exact system you are proposing:

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/spe...er-system.html


You might consider replacing the Mythos 7 with an identical Gem to yield a more seamless front stage--but from the review, it sounds like you'd win either way.


Hope this helps!
 

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Hi, all:

Posted some links to professional reviews, some links to pictures of Mythos home theaters, and a bit of info in the first message of this thread. If you have any links, topic, etc, you think would be useful to add, please PM me.


Thanks for contributing to the thread, and I hope you find it helpful.
 

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Hi, all:

Posted some links to professional reviews, some links to pictures of Mythos home theaters, and a bit of info in the first message of this thread. If you have any links, topic, etc, you think would be useful to add, please PM me.


Thanks for contributing to the thread, and I hope you find it helpful.

The January 2009 edition of Sound & Vision contains a very favorable review of a Mythos STS system, including the Nine (center) and Gems (rear):

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"Bottom line: ...Mythos STS... is one of the best values going in high-end speakers... dynamic, full range performance... clean, coherent, detailed sound ... Combined with the... Mythos Nine and... a pair of Gems, it all adds up to a... seriously kick-ass system."

The review doesn't seem to be on their website yet, probably because the print edition is still on sale.
 

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I just ordered a set of GLS Audio Black Chrome banana plugs. Now I'm wondering if they will fit with the speakers mounted on the wall. Has anyone tried this yet?
 

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...Posted some links to professional reviews, some links to pictures of Mythos home theaters, and a bit of info in the first message of this thread...

I forgot to thank you for this, BTW. It is very useful to have a single reference point like that.
 

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Regarding the post: "The +/- 3dB for the Mythos One is approx. 70Hz-20kHz" referenced in your update, mvp2005fan, the new (much improved) DefTech website now includes recommended crossover points for each of their speakers. They recommend a 60Hz crossover for the Mythos One. Since the crossover is generally recommended to be somewhat above the -3dB point, it's likely that the One reaches closer to 50Hz or so.


My hypothetical rule of thumb for DefTech low frequency response is that the useful limit of any of their speakers is about twice the frequency claimed (i.e. ~ one octave higher).
 

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if you email chet at def tech, he will give you the actual +/- 3db specs for any speaker you ask about


here are some we have collected over at the other def tech thread


here's the updated +/- 3 db response list from def tech:


I got these from Chet @ def tech:


trinity:.......................16hz +/- 3db


supercube reference:....18hz - 118 hz +/- 3db


BP-7000SC:.................20hz - 20khz +/- 3db


BP-7001SC:.................23hz - 20khz +/- 3db


BP7002: +/- 3db 25hz - 20,000 hz

BP7004: +/- 3db 27hz - 20,000 hz

BP7006 +/- 3db 29hz - 20,000 hz

SuperCube I: +/- 3db 20hz - 120 hz

SuperCube II: +/- 3db 25hz - 125 hz

SuperCube III: +/- 3db 29hz - 130hz


Mythos ST:.................24hz - 20khz +/- 3db


Mythos One:...............57hz - 20khz +/- 3db


thanks to stevec325 for obtaining the following from Chet:


SM350: +/- 3db 57 hz - 20 khz

SM450: +/- 3db 47 hz - 20 khz

ProSub 1000: +/- 3db 27 hz - 123 hz



and thanks to shart74 for obtaining the following from Chet:


In our anechoic chamber, we've measured the

following specifications:


BP30 : +/- 3db 22hz - 20khz

CLR2000 : +/- 3db 45hz - 20khz

BPX : +/- 3db 55hz - 20khz

BPVX : +/- 3db 48hz - 20khz


These measurements were taken with a microphone placed 1 meter away

from the front of the speakers (which were placed on the floor). There

was no reflective sound from the walls. However, there was a sound

reflection from the floor.
 
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