I agree. I have been most happy with the Denon 1600 driving my X1.
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Denon 1600 Unbeleivable
I never thought a DVD can make such a big difference.
I bought a Pioneer 563 and a Denon 1600. These are my first set of Prog. Scan DVD players. I got the 563 three days before the denon. I had a chance to spend a good bit of time watching movies on my 65" RPTV using the pioneer and then the denon arrived I hooked it up and from the first comparison I was just blown away. This is no knock on the pioneer it is a very good DVD player but the denon is just flat out better. I also want to thank a lot of you for all the advice that led me to this purchase. Good luck to everyone and if you are trying to stay below $200.00 then the pioneer is a very good choice but if you are willing to spend a little more go with the denon you will not be disappointed.
I bought a Pioneer 563 and a Denon 1600. These are my first set of Prog. Scan DVD players. I got the 563 three days before the denon. I had a chance to spend a good bit of time watching movies on my 65" RPTV using the pioneer and then the denon arrived I hooked it up and from the first comparison I was just blown away. This is no knock on the pioneer it is a very good DVD player but the denon is just flat out better. I also want to thank a lot of you for all the advice that led me to this purchase. Good luck to everyone and if you are trying to stay below $200.00 then the pioneer is a very good choice but if you are willing to spend a little more go with the denon you will not be disappointed.
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It sounds more and more that the Denon 1600 is the one I should by.
But it does not have the Coax Out for my Dolby 5.1 sound.
I have heard of adapters, How much are they?
Where do I get one.
Should I maybe go with the similar Denon 910 or 1200 on the CrutchField site? What would I be loosing? I know I would be gaining the Coax Out port.
I know the brand, now help me be sure about the model #
But it does not have the Coax Out for my Dolby 5.1 sound.
I have heard of adapters, How much are they?
Where do I get one.
Should I maybe go with the similar Denon 910 or 1200 on the CrutchField site? What would I be loosing? I know I would be gaining the Coax Out port.
I know the brand, now help me be sure about the model #
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It's still unconfirmed, but at this point it seems like the 910 and 1200 are based on the video section of the inferior DVD-900 player, which has a much softer picture than the 1600.
| Originally posted by ScottChez Should I maybe go with the similar Denon 910 or 1200 on the CrutchField site? What would I be loosing? |
I sure wish someone could do a side-by-side comparison with a Denon 1600 vs the 910 and/or 1200.
I'm really not seeing that much difference between my 1600 and my older much cheaper Sony 715p player? What am I missing? This is projected onto a 100" screen using the panny 300u.
Have you tried any video-based (not film) material? Thats where the Faroudja de-interlacer shines.
Please explain what your talking about. Not film material?
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You're missing the chroma bug . Sony has it. Denon does not.
| Originally posted by Randyman I'm really not seeing that much difference between my 1600 and my older much cheaper Sony 715p player? What am I missing? This is projected onto a 100" screen using the panny 300u. |
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Besides having no chroma bug, the denon also has a much better de-interlacer and video signal. Although the sony isn't too shabby either.
CodeEcks, I agree. I never knew how much the lack of the chroma bug makes a difference until I replaced my Denon 2800 with the 1600.
| Originally posted by Randyman I'm really not seeing that much difference between my 1600 and my older much cheaper Sony 715p player? What am I missing? This is projected onto a 100" screen using the panny 300u. |
CodeEcks, I agree. I never knew how much the lack of the chroma bug makes a difference until I replaced my Denon 2800 with the 1600.
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With film based material (feature films on DVD) the RP-91 does a very good job with de-interlacing. However, with video based material (TV shows on DVD) the RP-91 has a hard time. The difference is in the frame rates and conversion.
Therefore, when people are comparing the RP-91 to other players it normally compares very well on film based material. However, if you compare the RP-91 to the Denon on video based material you will find more apparent differences.
| Originally posted by Randyman Please explain what your talking about. Not film material? |
Therefore, when people are comparing the RP-91 to other players it normally compares very well on film based material. However, if you compare the RP-91 to the Denon on video based material you will find more apparent differences.
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I opted for the Yamaha DV-c6480 because it has the same Panasonic video section as the Denon, it is a 5 disc changer, it has co-ax output and it was cheaper than the Denon. In my extensive testing at home on my Toshiba 65" the picture quality was identical in every I could tell. Including the lack of Chroma bug.
| Originally posted by ScottChez It sounds more and more that the Denon 1600 is the one I should by. But it does not have the Coax Out for my Dolby 5.1 sound. |
Where can I buy a Yamaha DV-c6480 ?
Are you sure there is no Chroma bug in it?
Has anyone ran the shoot out on it?
Are you sure there is no Chroma bug in it?
Has anyone ran the shoot out on it?
The Yamaha has no power button on the remote.
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I bought mine at Fry's electronics. I payed $199 for it on sale but it usually goes for $250-300.
No it definetly does not have the Chroma bug.
I do not believe it has been in the "shoot out".
The only flaw that I am aware of is that it does not have a power button on the remote. The doesn't bother me but keep that in mind.
| Originally posted by ScottChez Where can I buy a Yamaha DV-c6480 ? Are you sure there is no Chroma bug in it? Has anyone ran the shoot out on it? |
No it definetly does not have the Chroma bug.
I do not believe it has been in the "shoot out".
The only flaw that I am aware of is that it does not have a power button on the remote. The doesn't bother me but keep that in mind.
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You can get an Optical to Coaxial adapter at partsexpress.com here
I have used it to feed DD 5.1 to my Bose HT system from Motorola STB and I am satisfied with the quality of the sound. Has anyone else heard of any other adapters?
| Originally posted by ScottChez I have heard of adapters, How much are they? Where do I get one. |
I have used it to feed DD 5.1 to my Bose HT system from Motorola STB and I am satisfied with the quality of the sound. Has anyone else heard of any other adapters?
Thanks for the info about film/video. Call me crazy but when I switch between the two with the same disc in both machines through my Zektor, I actually see no differences to my eyes or my wifes.
Am I still crazy? Are there certain discs I should check? I used Gladiator, Star wars I, Titanic, Lord of the rings.
Am I still crazy? Are there certain discs I should check? I used Gladiator, Star wars I, Titanic, Lord of the rings.
I'm not familiar with the Sony. However you are trying all film based DVD's. See how good your Sony handles video - do you have any TV show box sets?
If you can't see or don't notice the croma bug, by all means don't go looking for it! Once you notice it, you can't go back. If you don't notice it on your Sony, be happy
Try some of the "making of" or similar documentaries that are included on most DVDs, especially those that were from an HBO program - these are in video mode.
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