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Originally Posted by schan1269 /forum/post/20786384
Sound will be determined more by your speakers and room.
The AVR(any actual amp) will have less than 1% of the "entire" affect of the sound you get. The remaining 99% is purely your speakers and room.
Which receiver has the features you are actually going to use...at a price you are willing to pay?
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Originally Posted by avshtpcbob /forum/post/0
I am stuck between these two AVRs as well. Have been reading for about a month. What I have read about Denon and networking is what is leaning me towards the 809. The 809 has the ISF video, 4k scaling (which I wont use at this time - LOL), and vga input for my old HTPC. I had a 808, but returned it (mine had those issues you can read about). I am stuck with cructhfield as I have credit (they are great). I was steered toward the Marantz 5006, but if I read correctly -you have to pay for firmware updates. So that is why I went back to looking at Denons. There are off/on deals for the 809 at other sites. I am not sure you can find the Denon at the same price. Onkyo has only 2 year versus Denon's 3, but I read here you can get a 3rd from Onkyo for $65 (cheaper than going thru another warranty co). Right now I am leaning more towards the 809, but have yet to make the purchase. ::sigh::![]()
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Originally Posted by 357 /forum/post/20835923
Get a Pioneer Elite SC-35. I had an Onkyo for a couple of days but then it started screwing up. In the process of sending it back now. Got my Elite in yesterday. Boy what a difference in sound. Blows the Onkyo away. Seriously pick one up. I'm never buying anything but Elite now.
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Originally Posted by CGIM5804 /forum/post/0
I know but I wanted HD Radio. How is the video processing on the SC-35?
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Originally Posted by 357 /forum/post/20835923
Get a Pioneer Elite SC-35. I had an Onkyo for a couple of days but then it started screwing up. In the process of sending it back now. Got my Elite in yesterday. Boy what a difference in sound. Blows the Onkyo away. Seriously pick one up. I'm never buying anything but Elite now.
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Originally Posted by n8gray /forum/post/0
My 2 cents on the matter. I went through the same decision between Denon and Onkyo and ended up with the Onkyo 809. I really wanted Airplay but after reading the Denon forums it just felt like people were having a lot of "quirks" with the networking, and that's not something I wanted to deal with. Plus, the 809 was showing up for $700, which seemed like an amazing price.
I think I made the wrong decision.
To start with, let me just say that the thing *sounds* great. I've got no complaints there, but I was expecting more than just great sound.
I had really high hopes for the networking and hdmi features of the 809. I wanted to be able to walk into the house, pull out my iPhone, and queue up some tunes without ever touching a remote control. Unfortunately the 809 uses 55W of power in standby if you leave networking enabled, so the "no remote" part of the dream died.
Next I discovered that almost all of the DLNA remote apps for the iPhone are complete crap. I finally found a fairly decent one (8player), only to learn that most DLNA devices don't support the concept of "queueing up some tunes". You need to have a controlling device constantly feeding the next song to the player. In other words, if you lock your phone the music stops.
To summarize, DLNA is worthless for the "I want to pick an album to play from my phone" use case. The Onkyo iPhone App? Also worthless. Oremote? Interesting app, but not a solution to this problem.
So now the iPhone-as-remote part of the dream is dead, but at least I can still use the built-in DLNA interface to stream my music, right? Sadly, the built-in interface is way too clunky (and not even in HD!). Imagine scrolling through a list of 2000 CDs 10 CDs at a time. Just forget about it. So in the end the DLNA streaming on the 809 is extremely awkward to use no matter *how* you do it.
Then there's the hdmi features. I liked the idea of turning on the PS3 and having the receiver and TV turn on automatically and switch to the right inputs. Unfortunately if you enable hdmi control, guess what happens? That's right, 55W in standby.
So basically, I'm back to programming clunky IR remotes and planning to buy an Apple TV just so I can get a decent music streaming experience (i.e. Airplay). I can't say if the Denon would be better, but if Airplay works like it's supposed to it would be a big big improvement over DLNA.
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Originally Posted by n8gray /forum/post/20885745
My 2 cents on the matter. I went through the same decision between Denon and Onkyo and ended up with the Onkyo 809. I really wanted Airplay but after reading the Denon forums it just felt like people were having a lot of "quirks" with the networking, and that's not something I wanted to deal with. Plus, the 809 was showing up for $700, which seemed like an amazing price.
I think I made the wrong decision.
To start with, let me just say that the thing *sounds* great. I've got no complaints there, but I was expecting more than just great sound.
I had really high hopes for the networking and hdmi features of the 809. I wanted to be able to walk into the house, pull out my iPhone, and queue up some tunes without ever touching a remote control. Unfortunately the 809 uses 55W of power in standby if you leave networking enabled, so the "no remote" part of the dream died.
Next I discovered that almost all of the DLNA remote apps for the iPhone are complete crap. I finally found a fairly decent one (8player), only to learn that most DLNA devices don't support the concept of "queueing up some tunes". You need to have a controlling device constantly feeding the next song to the player. In other words, if you lock your phone the music stops.
To summarize, DLNA is worthless for the "I want to pick an album to play from my phone" use case. The Onkyo iPhone App? Also worthless. Oremote? Interesting app, but not a solution to this problem.
So now the iPhone-as-remote part of the dream is dead, but at least I can still use the built-in DLNA interface to stream my music, right? Sadly, the built-in interface is way too clunky (and not even in HD!). Imagine scrolling through a list of 2000 CDs 10 CDs at a time. Just forget about it. So in the end the DLNA streaming on the 809 is extremely awkward to use no matter *how* you do it.
Then there's the hdmi features. I liked the idea of turning on the PS3 and having the receiver and TV turn on automatically and switch to the right inputs. Unfortunately if you enable hdmi control, guess what happens? That's right, 55W in standby.
So basically, I'm back to programming clunky IR remotes and planning to buy an Apple TV just so I can get a decent music streaming experience (i.e. Airplay). I can't say if the Denon would be better, but if Airplay works like it's supposed to it would be a big big improvement over DLNA.