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I was reading a review of the 4.1s that discussed their low 4 ohm impedance presenting a difficult load for an amp. Can anyone shar personal experience driving the 4.1s with either receiver?
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TM
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Denon 3802/Onkyo 797 amps up to driving Diva 4.1s?
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Hi Anthony. The 4.1's actually have a 6ohm nominal impedance. The plate on the back of some speakers show the incorrect impedance. A 3802 or 797 will have no problem running any of the Diva speakers. We frequently recommend those very receivers with great sucess.
If you have any other questions, please don't hesitate to e-mail or phone me.
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Sean Parque
If you have any other questions, please don't hesitate to e-mail or phone me.
Regards,
Sean Parque
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WHOA. WOW. Yet another reason I LOVE this place...
Thank you thank you!
Tony
Thank you thank you!
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Tony,
Do you know which way you are leaning between these two receivers? I have the 4.1s and am trying to decide between the 3802 and the 797. I'd be interested in learning of your decision.
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Chris
Do you know which way you are leaning between these two receivers? I have the 4.1s and am trying to decide between the 3802 and the 797. I'd be interested in learning of your decision.
Thanks,
Chris
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I just learned of the newer Onkyo models....600/700/800. I spoke with Sean at AV123 who told me (after reviewing the specs on them - crutchfield has a good listing) that the 600 would work fine with the 4.1s.
The 600 is a full pricepoint (or 2) down from the others but still serves my needs. The good news about this is that the 600 is available from onecall for CHEAP and leaves me much more room in the budget for the 4.1s...
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The 600 is a full pricepoint (or 2) down from the others but still serves my needs. The good news about this is that the 600 is available from onecall for CHEAP and leaves me much more room in the budget for the 4.1s...
TM
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My 3802 and 4.1 are very happy together, no problems at all.
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I was originally using the Onkyo 600 in my setup. But I was concerned when I read reports that the power ratings that Onkyo was reporting when all 5 speakers were driven was inaccurate. Rather than 80W per ch as advertised, it was more like 34W per ch!! I may have been able to get away with this, but I didn't want to take the chance. So I took it back to CC, and as I mentioned before am trying to decide between the 3802 and 797.
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Hi Chris,
Sean at av123 told me that he actually uses the Onkyo 696 (the one being replace by the 600, confusing numbering convention aside) with a pair of 6.1s, C3, and 2.1s rear in a room larger than my girlfriend's living room and he said no problem...I'll test it first thing and report back. Should all be here by this weekend
TM
Sean at av123 told me that he actually uses the Onkyo 696 (the one being replace by the 600, confusing numbering convention aside) with a pair of 6.1s, C3, and 2.1s rear in a room larger than my girlfriend's living room and he said no problem...I'll test it first thing and report back. Should all be here by this weekend
TM
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tony,
you should get an inexpensive sep' amp for your set up.
you can get a nice clean and powerful amp for around $300. on ebay. --(like an adcom gfa555) just to name one, -(that i always name)...
i think it's a small investment to make considering the amount already put forth. it's all about how nice you want your investment to sound, and a lot of people DO want their speakers to sound as goos as possible. --- your just not going to get that sound with a regular ol' reciever/amp...............
sorry to post that thought again to those whom have read before, but to me, we all spend this "chunk" on our audio/video equipment, then let it boil down to the "stock" reciever, when we really want it to sound as GOOD as it can.
heck, i whish i lived in your area, i'd bring mine over just so you could hear the difference. --- and please don't take this negatively, it just makes a really nice difference in sound quality, and wanted to share the moment.
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you should get an inexpensive sep' amp for your set up.
you can get a nice clean and powerful amp for around $300. on ebay. --(like an adcom gfa555) just to name one, -(that i always name)...
i think it's a small investment to make considering the amount already put forth. it's all about how nice you want your investment to sound, and a lot of people DO want their speakers to sound as goos as possible. --- your just not going to get that sound with a regular ol' reciever/amp...............
sorry to post that thought again to those whom have read before, but to me, we all spend this "chunk" on our audio/video equipment, then let it boil down to the "stock" reciever, when we really want it to sound as GOOD as it can.
heck, i whish i lived in your area, i'd bring mine over just so you could hear the difference. --- and please don't take this negatively, it just makes a really nice difference in sound quality, and wanted to share the moment.
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Anthony and Chris,
I own the 797 and am very happy with the sound, performance and features.Driving the 4.1 Diva package and SVS 25-31 PCi.What a great sound these make together.Michael
I own the 797 and am very happy with the sound, performance and features.Driving the 4.1 Diva package and SVS 25-31 PCi.What a great sound these make together.Michael
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zooplancton,
Part of the reason I returned my Onkyo 600 was it's lack of preouts. I thought someday I may want to add an external amp. With respect to separates would you say that no receiver will ever come close to sounding as good as separate components would. Or, if I took a step (or 2) up from the 600 to say the 797 or the Denon 3802, then I may be able to match the sound quality from a separates. With the preouts, I always have the choice of adding an external amp later.
Michael,
You have the exact setup that I am considering. I have the 4.1 package and hope to be getting the SVS sub within the next couple months. However, I am stumped on this receiver issue still. I am contemplating the 797 with the 3802. Where did you get your 797? Any problems with the ticking? How long have you had it?
Thanks,
Chris
Part of the reason I returned my Onkyo 600 was it's lack of preouts. I thought someday I may want to add an external amp. With respect to separates would you say that no receiver will ever come close to sounding as good as separate components would. Or, if I took a step (or 2) up from the 600 to say the 797 or the Denon 3802, then I may be able to match the sound quality from a separates. With the preouts, I always have the choice of adding an external amp later.
Michael,
You have the exact setup that I am considering. I have the 4.1 package and hope to be getting the SVS sub within the next couple months. However, I am stumped on this receiver issue still. I am contemplating the 797 with the 3802. Where did you get your 797? Any problems with the ticking? How long have you had it?
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Chris
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Chris,
I bought my receiver online at www.bestpriceaudiovideo.com.They pricematched from audio review. They are an authorized dealer. It took me almost two years to decide what to buy.I had been out of touch with audio equipment for some time and wanted to be sure of my purchase.I too was considering the Denon 3802 ,but wanted to have a receiver that could pass HDTV signal,Denon can't without some signal loss(so I have been told).The DAC's on the Onkyo are 196kHz/24bit.The bass management is superb.The sound of this system just brings me great listening enjoyment.The only thing that I would like to have is complete display dimming (so you can't see it at all).It dimms pretty good but my DVD player blanks out completely and I like that feature.I have not had any ticking noise from my unit and if I do I wil just get it fixed.Got my receiver at the end of March,speakers the first week in April.
I bought my receiver online at www.bestpriceaudiovideo.com.They pricematched from audio review. They are an authorized dealer. It took me almost two years to decide what to buy.I had been out of touch with audio equipment for some time and wanted to be sure of my purchase.I too was considering the Denon 3802 ,but wanted to have a receiver that could pass HDTV signal,Denon can't without some signal loss(so I have been told).The DAC's on the Onkyo are 196kHz/24bit.The bass management is superb.The sound of this system just brings me great listening enjoyment.The only thing that I would like to have is complete display dimming (so you can't see it at all).It dimms pretty good but my DVD player blanks out completely and I like that feature.I have not had any ticking noise from my unit and if I do I wil just get it fixed.Got my receiver at the end of March,speakers the first week in April.
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zooplancton,
no need to sell me on the concept of separates. my system consists of an integra research rdc7 pre/pre and a theta dreadnaught amp driving B&W 802n's l/r, HTM1 center and def tech surrounds...
this system is for my girlfriend for her new apt. she suffers from black-box count-itis and (i hate to say it) probably wouldnt care about the incremental quality difference at this price point. so, I'm trying to put together the best 'basic' system i can get her started with.
thanks!
TM
no need to sell me on the concept of separates
. my system consists of an integra research rdc7 pre/pre and a theta dreadnaught amp driving B&W 802n's l/r, HTM1 center and def tech surrounds...this system is for my girlfriend for her new apt. she suffers from black-box count-itis and (i hate to say it) probably wouldnt care about the incremental quality difference at this price point. so, I'm trying to put together the best 'basic' system i can get her started with.
thanks!
TM
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Well I am very happy with th 3802 and its ability to power my Diva's and Axiom rears (7 speaker setup). But instead of getting a separate amp for the main's as some people suggest. I went with a dedicated Golden Tube Mono amp (80 W) for the center channel only. I let the 3802 handle the other 6 speakers.
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Since home theatre is 99% of my use, I wanted the center channel to sound the best and have the most headroom. Sounds fantastic to me, and the 3802 never gets taxed at all.
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I highly recommend dedicated center channel tube amps.
Of course I might be crazy.
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Since home theatre is 99% of my use, I wanted the center channel to sound the best and have the most headroom. Sounds fantastic to me, and the 3802 never gets taxed at all.
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I highly recommend dedicated center channel tube amps.
Of course I might be crazy.
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Hey Farscape,
Why the Lex MC12 and the 3802? Is it serving duty only as an amp?
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Why the Lex MC12 and the 3802? Is it serving duty only as an amp?
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The 3802 is a stop gap measure serving only as a 7 channel amp. Cheapest 7 channel amp I could find.
Once I pay off the MC-12 credit card ,in about 6 months, for christmas I plan to get a Lexicon LX-7 matching amp and charge up ye old card once again.
At that point I will sell the 3802 on ebay. I am dr-smith on ebay, 445 feedback, love selling stuff there.
Credit card can only take so much abuse at one time.
Once I pay off the MC-12 credit card ,in about 6 months, for christmas I plan to get a Lexicon LX-7 matching amp and charge up ye old card once again.
At that point I will sell the 3802 on ebay. I am dr-smith on ebay, 445 feedback, love selling stuff there.
Credit card can only take so much abuse at one time.
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I hear ya! When I bought my current system (the above stuff plus a Marantz DLP and firehawk screen...) I got 2 of those '6 month no payment no interest' credit cards and loaded them up. Unfortunately the piper is at my door now !
I know that the LX7 is nice from a matchy matchy standpoint and I have no clue how much it'll cost (or how it sounds for that matter!). But if you can swing an audition of the Theta Dreadnaught (which can be bought 3x200W, 4x100W for 7 channels total) I would highly recommend it. It's an amazing match for the 802Ns.
Good luck with it!
TM
PS - is farscape a good show (sorry if this seems heretical to ask!)? I watch SG1 from time to time but never seem to catch farscape...
!I know that the LX7 is nice from a matchy matchy standpoint and I have no clue how much it'll cost (or how it sounds for that matter!). But if you can swing an audition of the Theta Dreadnaught (which can be bought 3x200W, 4x100W for 7 channels total) I would highly recommend it. It's an amazing match for the 802Ns.
Good luck with it!
TM
PS - is farscape a good show (sorry if this seems heretical to ask!)? I watch SG1 from time to time but never seem to catch farscape...
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Farscape is the best!!! SG1 and Farscape bothe begin theiir new seasons on SciFi channel this Friday at 9PM. Both are great shows!!!!!!!
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I actually hooked up the coax out of the dvd to the Lexicon, and the optical out of the DVD to the Denon. For the express reason of comparing the Denon and the MC-12 on digital processing. But I have yet to do the comparison. I may do it soon, but I expect/hope the MC-12 is better. It better be considering it cost 6500 vs the 750 for the Denon. I would hate to be surprised.
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