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Denon/Marantz Movie vs Music vs Game

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Does anyone know what (if any) differences there are between Move, Music, and Game modes on the current and recent years Denon/Marantz AVR's? It seems when selected you get basically the same list of processing/upmixing options. I know prior to the object oriented sound tracks and upmixers there actually was a difference at least between movie and music. Doby pro logic and DTS had different processing for movie/music. I don't think I hear any difference with current AVRs though and I have read comments here that they are all the same now. However the guys on AV-Rant podcast (who seem to be very knowledgeable, especially Rob) report that there are subtle difference with more reverb added to the movie modes and actually recommend game mode for movie watching. Has anyone seen any documentation from Denon to truly explain the difference or done any testing?
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Think of them as presets meant to recall the same sound mode as what was selected for the previous playback.
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Think of them as presets meant to recall the same sound mode as what was selected for the previous playback.
So, for example, there is no difference between these modes -- they sound the same?
  • Game > Dolby Audio - DD + DSur
  • Movie > Dolby Audio - DD + DSur
  • Music > Dolby Audio - DD + DSur
Makes sense as I can find no Denon or Dolby documentation that says otherwise or details what the differences would be.

So the Game, Movie, and Music buttons are really just categories to help you sort through and recall the sound modes more easily and give you access to the category-specific game modes?

This is an obscure reference -- people talking about the Denon API programming interface to control their Denon with their own code -- but it lays out the same and talks about Game, Movie, and Music as categories and not different sounding super/sub modes: DenonAVR Select Sound Mode help

P.S. I wonder if AV-Rant is remembering and referencing the Dolby Pro Logic II Game, Movie, and Music modes -- the pre-Atmos way to "upmix" stereo signals -- that were available under the Denon Game, Movie, and Music categories on older receivers. Those did sound different.
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It's documented in the manuals in the "Sound mode that can be selected for each input signal" section.

In some cases there are no differences, but there can be differences. For example, on the non-Atmos models different DPII modes are available.
It's documented in the manuals in the "Sound mode that can be selected for each input signal" section.

In some cases there are no differences, but there can be differences. For example, on the non-Atmos models different DPII modes are available.
Thanks. I should have said "Makes sense as I can find no Denon or Dolby upmixer documentation that says otherwise or details what the differences would be." I have an Atmos-enabled AVR-X6700H. If I had a non-Atmos model with Dolby Pro Logic II, I'm sure the documentation would talk about the differences between the DPII Game, Movie, and Music modes.
However the guys on AV-Rant podcast (who seem to be very knowledgeable, especially Rob) report that there are subtle difference with more reverb added to the movie modes and actually recommend game mode for movie watching.
Rob retested for episode #798 with the modern upmixers and could hear no difference between the modes, saying that his advice was based on PLII-era differences between modes that must not apply to modern upmixers. It's one of many things I like about Rob: his willingness to test, and his willingness to reconsider his position.
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