[ImDiesel]

any opinions as to which one works better...?


the Pioneer VSX-82TSX has this program and comes with the mic for setting it up...


the Denon AVR-2807 has the Audyssey, and I'm assuming it comes with a mic for setting it up...


does anyone know if the Pioneer passes audio and video through HDMI...? i know the 2807 does...


my main use will be for PS3, and ocassional movie watching...


Thanks...

 

[soundlovr]



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Originally Posted by ImDiesel /forum/post/0


any opinions as to which one works better...?

Audyssey is the most advanced room correction in the market presently. MCACC doesn't hold a candle.

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Originally Posted by ImDiesel /forum/post/0


the Denon AVR-2807 has the Audyssey, and I'm assuming it comes with a mic for setting it up...

You assume correctly.

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Originally Posted by ImDiesel /forum/post/0


does anyone know if the Pioneer passes audio and video through HDMI...? i know the 2807 does...

If not, one would question why it's there (ie: yes, it does).

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Originally Posted by ImDiesel /forum/post/0


my main use will be for PS3, and ocassional movie watching...

Given that you don't even list music-listening as a purpose to the system, room correction seems an unimportant factor for your needs. Pick the cheapest option.

 

[ImDiesel]

so speaker setup for surround sound holds no importance...?

 

[hdgeek]

Even for movie watching, the Audyssey on the Denon 2807 made a huge difference in my room. Vocals are better focused and the sound stage is much wider with smooth panning. I can also sit off-center with dialog still anchored to the screen.


Room correction, if done well, makes all sources sound better. Music just gets the most benefit.

 

[Kal Rubinson]



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Originally Posted by ImDiesel /forum/post/0


so speaker setup for surround sound holds no importance...?

Sure, it does but both the Denon and the Pioneer (as well as many others) have that.

 

[ImDiesel]

i opted for the Elite... but can swap it out if i so choose...


we'll see how it works out...

 

[soundlovr]



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Originally Posted by ImDiesel /forum/post/0


so speaker setup for surround sound holds no importance...?

Audyssey is a RoomEQ product, not a speaker setup routine.

 

[Kal Rubinson]



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Audyssey is a RoomEQ product, not a speaker setup routine.

Yes. Seems as if we have to say this over and over and over.......................

 

[ImDiesel]

ok, i got it...


no need to continue crying about it...


and it seems the Audyssey is mainly for music, so i have zero use for it anyhow...

 

[Kal Rubinson]



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Originally Posted by ImDiesel /forum/post/0


and it seems the Audyssey is mainly for music, so i have zero use for it anyhow...

Where did you get this idea from? It applies equally to music and HT and most of the Audyssey-recommended demos for it are movies, not music.

 

[ImDiesel]

i got it from someone here who said the Audessey was mainly for music content...


it's hard to get somewhere when you have conflicting information coming from all angles...

 

[krabapple]



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Even for movie watching, the Audyssey on the Denon 2807 made a huge difference in my room.

As did MCACC in mine. I haven't heard any of the other mfrs' automatic room correction routines.


But the fact is , no one has published any sort of rigororous (or even casual, as best I know) comparison of Audyssey vs MCACC vs YPAO vs Harman's room eq, in terms of their effects on the same room, same setup, same listening position. Not even before/after room measurements, much less subjective impressions (Kal, are these something Stereophile could be persuaded to try?). So any definitive claims made here should be taken with a large lump of salt. It should also be noted that Audyssey as supplied on Denon receivers is a 'simplified' version of the extremely powerful Audyssey engine available as a stand-alone device.

 

[Kal Rubinson]



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(Kal, are these something Stereophile could be persuaded to try?). So any definitive claims made here should be taken with a large lump of salt.

Not very likely. We do not review receivers, as a rule so, unless someone is very hot to do this particular test, it will not happen. Don't count on me.

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It should also be noted that Audyssey as supplied on Denon receivers is a 'simplified' version of the extremely powerful Audyssey engine available as a stand-alone device.

See my forthcoming March column.

 

[Avliner]

Well, I'm extremely happy with Audyssey on both, music & video performances.

All I do is - once in a while - to swap between Audyssey & Flat modes, but most of the time it's engaged on Audyssey. My AVR is a 3806.


To my taste, not even manual EQ (which doesn't have Audyssey apllied) surpasses the former. So, IMHO: THANKS Audyssey!


Hope this helps.


Cheers.

 

[WebEffect]

I'm curious, how does Yamaha's YPAO compare to Audyssey?

 

[ImDiesel]

apparently it's crap, cause everyone seems to feel the Auddessy is GOD...

 

[Avliner]

... or DEVIL, if you see things from a different angle.


Lots of people on this & other forums doesn't like the way Audyssey sounds though.


Cheers.

 

[skoolpsyk]



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Originally Posted by krabapple /forum/post/0


As did MCACC in mine. I haven't heard any of the other mfrs' automatic room correction routines.


But the fact is , no one has published any sort of rigororous (or even casual, as best I know) comparison of Audyssey vs MCACC vs YPAO vs Harman's room eq, in terms of their effects on the same room, same setup, same listening position. Not even before/after room measurements, much less subjective impressions (Kal, are these something Stereophile could be persuaded to try?). So any definitive claims made here should be taken with a large lump of salt. It should also be noted that Audyssey as supplied on Denon receivers is a 'simplified' version of the extremely powerful Audyssey engine available as a stand-alone device.

I sure wish someone would; I think a LOT of people would be interested in the results!

 

[SkiSmuggs]



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Originally Posted by ImDiesel /forum/post/9585140


and it seems the Audyssey is mainly for music, so i have zero use for it anyhow...


it's hard to get somewhere when you have conflicting information coming from all angles...


apparently YPAO is crap, cause everyone seems to feel the Auddessy is GOD...

They are ALL better than doing nothing which is what many people do. Most don't own an SPL meter. Just because Audyssey is the preferred EQ by many does not make the others crap. And having your a** on your shoulders doesn't make anything sound better.

 

[nwbnd]

So is the only option to automatic correction schemes a PEQ? If so, is there a 5.1/7.1 ch PEQ that is cost competitive with the built-ins?