[stumlad]

The goal of this thread will be to do comparison pics to determine how good the blu-ray of Dexter is. I would like to compare to DVD, but I do not have it since I knew to wait. If anyone can provide matching frames from the DVD, please PM me, and we can work together to put them up.


For this comparison, I will be comparing the blu-ray episode 10 against an MPEG2 5.3 GB 1920x1080i broadcast encode. I


I wouldn't think that any of these are spoilers, but if you haven't seen the show you may want to avoid.


There are at least 2 comparisons that involve blood. Part of the reason is because it really helps show off the resolution advantages between the blu-ray and the hdtv broadcast.


This thread will be done Xylon-Style.


Update:

Deviation was kind enough to volunteer some caps from the DVD. We're not sure if the contrast is different because of a setting or if it's just the way the DVD looks. Also, the frames arent perfectly matched, but you can get a good idea for what kind of upgrade you should expect.

 

[stumlad]

This pic was taken partially in motion, but to get a feel for the small object detail differences...


HDTV

BD

DVD cap by Deviation

 

[stumlad]

There will be blood

HDTV

BD

DVD cap by Deviation

 

[stumlad]

HDTV

BD

DVD cap by Deviation

 

[stumlad]

HDTV

BD

DVD cap by Deviation

 

[stumlad]

HDTV

BD

DVD cap by Deviation:

 

[Dahl77]

Seems ok, grain structure looks to be intact.

 

[chirpie]

Was Dexter an HDCAM show (no film) or was it shot on film, or was it both? (Best I could find on IMDB made it sound like some parts were 35mm and the rest was HD video)

 

[Deviation]



Quote:
Originally Posted by chirpie /forum/post/15499099


Was Dexter an HDCAM show (no film) or was it shot on film, or was it both? (Best I could find on IMDB made it sound like some parts were 35mm and the rest was HD video)

There may be some film mixed in there at some point or for specific sequences but Dexter is primarily (if not entirely) an HDCAM show to my knowledge.


I have the DVD set and would be willing to provide captures - but I have no experience in doing so. Is there free software available that will make it relatively easy to find the correct frames?

 

[rdgrimes]

It wouldn't take much to best the PQ of the DVDs. IMHO a comparison would be a waste of time, the DVD is that bad. (Mostly over-compression issues.)

 

[stumlad]



Quote:
Originally Posted by rdgrimes /forum/post/15501222


It wouldn't take much to best the PQ of the DVDs. IMHO a comparison would be a waste of time, the DVD is that bad. (Mostly over-compression issues.)

It's always nice to see how much of an improvement a blu-ray offers (or in some case doesn't offer) over other high def versions and even DVD versions out there. For some people, the difference may not be enough to justify a re-purchase. For others, a 1 percent improvement may be all it takes.

 

[Lee K]

Much better than the broadcast. I'm buying this for sure.


Anyone know if it's 640k DD or 480k? :-\\


No lossless is one thing, but if it has no audio upgrade over the DVD/Broadcast that would be severely frustrating.

 

[Patsfan123]

It has 24bit TrueHD...? The core is also 640k. Where did you get the idea it had no lossless?

 

[Lee K]

Weird, it said "Dolby Digital" somewhere. Awesome!

 

[stumlad]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee K /forum/post/15503597


Weird, it said "Dolby Digital" somewhere. Awesome!

I think it has Dolby Digital 2.0 track, but the 5.1 is 24 bit TrueHD like patsfan said.

 

[Deviation]

I sent in some captures of the DVD that should hopefully be posted soon. I wasn't able to get exact frame matches on some of them. A few I probably didn't look at close enough (MPCHC has frame step but not frame step back - what gives?) but in one specific case (Deb in the bloody room) I wasn't able to match the frame no matter how hard I tried. It's almost like that exact frame literally didn't exist on the DVD version. You'll be able to see in the one that's put up that it matches her hand position with the previous position being seen as well - they're blurred together. However, going into the very next frame, her hand has moves to a different position. I can't explain it.


Here's a (lower res because I don't have a pro account at Photobucket) preview:

 

[42041]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Deviation /forum/post/15504169


I sent in some captures of the DVD that should hopefully be posted soon. I wasn't able to get exact frame matches on some of them. A few I probably didn't look at close enough (MPCHC has frame step but not frame step back - what gives?) but in one specific case (Deb in the bloody room) I wasn't able to match the frame no matter how hard I tried. It's almost like that exact frame literally didn't exist on the DVD version. You'll be able to see in the one that's put up that it matches her hand position with the previous position being seen as well - they're blurred together. However, going into the very next frame, her hand has moves to a different position. I can't explain it.

Whatever you're capturing with probably isn't doing inverse telecine correctly, so it's displaying it as an interlaced source, and you get the fields from two frames blending together.

 

[Deviation]



Quote:
Originally Posted by 42041 /forum/post/15504358


Whatever you're capturing with probably isn't doing inverse telecine correctly, so it's displaying it as an interlaced source, and you get the fields from two frames blending together.

I'm using Media Player Classic Home Cinema and FFDShow. I can't find any options WRT interlacing.

 

[tutelary]

this thread fails to deliver.

 

[Deviation]



Quote:
Originally Posted by tutelary /forum/post/15504665


this thread fails to deliver.

How so?