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Digital Remaster?

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What exactly does "Digital Remaster" mean? I'm seeing a lot of rereleased CD's of older releases that are stamped "Remastered" or "Digitally Remastered". How are these CD's different from the same CD I bought 10 or even 15 years ago?
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Here's the deal. CDs are recorded in 3 stages:


1 - In the studio to create the Studio Master


2 - Post production (I may have this term wrong - let's just call it PP for now) to create a new master that will be used to create the final distribution CD (or LP,or cassette, etc.)


3 - The final cd that you purchase.


Each of these stages can be either analog (A) or digital (D).


So a cd that is marked "DDD" means that all three stages were done digitally. A cd marked AAD means that only that the CD was made from an analog post production master. This is the case with most older material from the era before digital recording was widespread.


The new digitally remastered cds are made from a new PP master. creating an "ADD" recording This is the best possible scenario until the band goes back into the studio to make a digital studio master.


Make sense?


BTW - I can't always tell the difference. On really old material where the noise created between the two analog stages was significant I can but there was some pretty good analog gear available as well and some analog masters are quite good.


Your ear and gear may be more discerning than mine.


Colin.
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Thanks. I think I get it now. I remember now about the AAD, ADD issue from the early days of CD's.


So it sounds like there probably is no value in replacing an old undamaged CD with one of these new Remastered ones. Most likely there’s no significant audible difference, and certainly no difference in casual listening.
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..So it sounds like there probably is no value in replacing an old undamaged CD with one of these new Remastered ones. Most likely there’s no significant audible difference, and certainly no difference in casual listening.
Not necessarily true. Remastering analog recordings is part art and part science, both of which have improved over the years. Take for instance Pink Floyd DSotM. It was recently remastered in DSD for SA-CD. This remaster sounds far superior (especially the 5.1 SA-CD track) than any of the pervious releases.
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Not necessarily true. Remastering analog recordings is part art and part science, both of which have improved over the years. Take for instance Pink Floyd DSotM. It was recently remastered in DSD for SA-CD. This remaster sounds far superior (especially the 5.1 SA-CD track) than any of the pervious releases.
Yes, but isn't that a format change to SACD and not just a remastered standard CD?
Megadeth (really just Mustaine) just went back and remastered their entire catalog. Mustaine even re-recorded stuff that was too far gone.
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Yes, but isn't that a format change to SACD and not just a remastered standard CD?
I just used DSotM as an example. BTW a standard CD of the new remaster is also available.;)
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Megadeth (really just Mustaine) just went back and remastered their entire catalog. Mustaine even re-recorded stuff that was too far gone.
Did these Megadeth remasters convince you to repurchase any of their CD’s? Was there any real improvement in your opinion?
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I just used DSotM as an example. BTW a standard CD of the new remaster is also available.;)
I guess you’re referring to “

Dark Side of the Moon 30th Anniversary Edition [HYBRID SACD]†?


It looks like this has a CD playable version on in addition to the SACD version. So as a standard CD how does this compare to the oridginal Dark Side of the Moon CD? I currently don’t have an SACD player. I have the original DSotM CD that says “Digital Remaster†right on the label.


But more to my original question, looking on cdnow.com I see “The Wall (Deluxe Packaging Digitally Remastered)†with a release date of April 25, 2000. I have The Wall on CD from a several years ago, but this appears to be a new one. Is this “Remastered†version really sound any better?


Also I see this [ORIGINAL RECORDING REMASTERED] label on a lot of Pink Floyd’s CD’s released in 2000. Is this just record company attempts to convince us to buy these new CD’s because they’re some how better than the CD’s I already own? The DSotM SACD sounds like an exception to this, as it is in fact different.


I guess I’m still confused if these remastered CD’s provide any worthwhile improvement.
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The stages are recording, mixing, mastering.


AAD = recorded analog, mixed analog, mastered digital

ADD = recorded analog, mixed digital, mastered digital

DDD = recorded digital, mixed digital, mastered digital


If it was put on CD it was digitally mastered or re-mastered.
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different mixes, different masters etc can all sound different, so the only way to know is to listen and compare. A "remastered" disc may or may not sound better than the original, it may be a very big difference, it may be subjective and small, it may not be audible to you. hard to say.
Thanks for the info everybody.
It's kind of a crap shoot so you just have to listen. Remastered disks are usually remixed as well so it depends on how they did it. There's been an unfortunate trend lately to try to make the disk sound LOUD on the radio and, if they give in to that, sound quality can suffer. Links showing the problem:

http://www.prorec.com/prorec/article...256C2E005DAF1C

http://www.stereophile.com/news/11649/


Quoting Jon Iverson in the Stereophile comparison of the CD and SACD layers of DSOTM, "I can almost see the young EMI exec jabbing his finger at the mastering engineer and shouting, "The audiophiles have got their prissy SACD layer, now make the other one ROCK!"
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Both very interesting. Does anybody know if the Rush CD “Vapor Trails†was ever fixed and re-released? That article was written in 2002.


If I understand the Stereophile article correctly the CD layer on the 30th-anniversary DSOTM may sound worse than the old CD?


So in general this Louder is Better thinking may cause these re-released CD’s to actually sound worse?
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