Finally got the 61.5 sat locked and loaded over 100. I called the Dish Tech number and asked for the channel number for the HD demo loop. They first told me it is available only to dealers. Well how in the hell do you block the rest of the world out? Anyway, being confident that this was patently false, I asked them to hold and got on line and informed them that the channel is 9443 or whatever it is. Point is- This HD thing is never gonna make it like this. I have adopted the tech and am seriously into it but how many people are going to work at it? Joe Six Pack ain't. Course when he sees the NFL on a big well calibrated high def set up - he might notice the difference. "sigh"