Disturbing trend w/ HD DVD video quality

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Haha

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What a shock. Baseline criteria changing as people get used to higher quality. Who could have predicted that? It will be interesting to see how people feel in a year.


If the first titles were transparent to their masters as Amir convinced many people of, then VC1 improvements would have nothing to do with this. If things were made to look the same as their masters, then the only thing VC1 could do is start making things look different than their masters. We've been told that the job of the encoder is to make the result look like the master, so whether making them look different than their masters would be an improvement in the codec or not would up for debate (I would vote that it would be if it meant fixing problems that were in the masters).


As far as the specific above titles themselves, differences could just be the masters.


--Darin

Last Samurai is still my #1, I own over 50


it brings tears to a film lovers eye when deinterlaced with the new DVDO VP50


Bry the Italian Job wasn't overcompressed, thats the way it looks, whoever worked on that film's master went to town with NR and edge enhancement, they should never be allowed to touch another film , combined with the fact that the film was directed on the softer side


the Italian Job looks better after the opening heist is over


-Gary

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Gary...do you pay rent or make car payments? How does someone so young as you afford so much so soon? Perhaps we older folk can learn a thing or two from you?

BTW, it's a priviledge to have someone so young and so dedicated we can learn from.

CMRA, appreciate the comments


I am very blessed, I live at home with the folks while I am still attending school, no rent, car payments(junker car) or smoke/drink like Capt.


I run various business ventures to fund my HT hobby and what few bills I have, you should see the car insurance prices people my age have to pay


it is my pleasure to be part of this great community, believe me I am doing all the learning


-Gary

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I own 12 titles so far and have watched the rest thanks to NETFLIX..and can also say that the Last Samurai has the best picture quality so far!!!!I would put Seabiscuit 2nd with F&F Tokyo Drift 3rd.......But I get the feeling there are some GREAT GREAT picture & sound quality movies coming to HDDVD in the next few months!!!!!.I LOVE IT

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Nope. I don't misunderstand them at all.
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If VC-1 isn't now making things look different than the masters (e.g., trying to clean up problems in masters), then any improvement in image quality seen could not be due to VC-1 improvements, unless you are comparing to something that doesn't look like its master. In other words, if things look just like their masters, then VC-1 efficiency improvements could not explain what hdtvhdtv mentioned.
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It goes right to the question of whether there is room for improvement in the future or not. With the same logic, you could also argue that since there aren't any BD50s out there, it is irrelevant what BD50s can do in the future. Or since there aren't any HD DVD players that can do 1080p24, it is irrelevant whether there can be in the future or not. Or since the XBOX360 doesn't have an HDMI output, it doesn't matter whether it will be able to in the future. We can agree or disagree about whether the future matters like this. Or whether it matters whether things we've been told in the past were true or not.


--Darin