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DIY Atmos Experimental Project: PRV AUDIO 8MR500-4 BULLET

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First let me preface this thread by informing everyone, this will not be a purist audiophile build. If you’re a purist and or Audiophile, this is not the thread for you.

So, in the name of DIY, I will proceed. Currently, I’m using two sets of Dayton Audio B-652 Air speakers as my front and back atmos. A tweeter has blown on the top left speaker, been that way for some time now, and I’ve finally decided to address it. I have 2 extra B-652 speakers available as a replacement, but I’ve chosen to build a speaker that will keep up with the rest of the system. At least that’s the idea anyway. I really like Javs' DIY Dolby Atmos MKII Modules, but $40 per driver, multiplied by 16, is not what I have in mind budget wise for this build. I decided on a more budget friendly approach and ended up purchasing two PRV AUDIO 8MR500-4 BULLET drivers. At $56, it makes for budget friendly build. It’s not the perfect driver by any stretch, but for some reason I’m intrigued the driver. At present time, I’m undecided on an enclosure, but I’m leaning towards sealed.
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GENERAL SPECIFICATIONS
Nominal Diameter8″ (203 mm)
Nominal impedance4 Ohms
Rated AES Power Handling (RMS)250 Watts
Program Power500 Watts
Sensitivity 2.83V at 1m95 dB
Recommended Hi Pass Crossover** **For Full Power Handling125 Hz** **12db Per Octave Crossover
Frequency Response at -10dB95 – 20,000 Hz
Voice Coil Diameter1.5″ (38 mm)
Voice Coil WireCCAW
Voice Coil Winding Depth9.5 mm
Former MaterialKapton
Magnetic Gap Depth6.0 mm
Frame MaterialStamped Steel

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THIELE-SMALL PARAMETERS
Equivalent VolumeVas20.8 l
Excursion (mathematical)***Xmax3.25 mm
Free Air ResonanceFs78.2 Hz
Mechanical FactorQms20.80
Electrical FactorQes0.48
Total FactorQts0.46
Cone AreaSd241 cm²
Mechanical MassMms11.5 g
Bl FactorBl6.45 Tm
Dc ResistanceRe3.5 Ohms
InductanceLe0.132 mH at 1 kHz
Mechanical Mass Without AirMmd9.39 g
Mechanical ComplianceCms0.360 mm/N
***Xmax=(Voice coil winding depth-Magnetic Gap depth)/2+ Mgnetic Gap Depth/4
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Cool. Atmos builds are under represented so always interesting. Are you going to do a passive filter with them or just let the avr sort it out?
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Watching this. PS5 just added 3D audio support for home theater systems and now I feel like Atmos will finally be worth it... :)
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Cool. Atmos builds are under represented so always interesting. Are you going to do a passive filter with them or just let the avr sort it out?
Funny you asked that, because I just watched a video by Toid DIY Audio on Baffle Step. I'll let the AVR cross these at 100hz-150hz and provide whatever correction that's needed, but Toid's video had me interested in Baffle step. Before I saw the video, I had know knowledge of baffle step. Now, It might be something I play around with
Watching this. PS5 just added 3D audio support for home theater systems and now I feel like Atmos will finally be worth it... :)
Where did you hear this? The latest change with the new beta firmware is added support for 3D audio from TV speakers (i.e. still stereo) only.
Where did you hear this? The latest change with the new beta firmware is added support for 3D audio from TV speakers (i.e. still stereo) only.
Well, that's a bummer. I guess I didn't look into it enough. Maybe one day they'll add it... Xbox and PC can do it so hopefuly Sony will implement it.
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Apparently it can do Atmos for blurays so it isn't totally useless as a bluray player, just can't do it for gaming.
Well, that's a bummer. I guess I didn't look into it enough. Maybe one day they'll add it... Xbox and PC can do it so hopefuly Sony will implement it.
Yep, I've been hoping from the beginning. Seems really dumb to spend all that time and effort making their own spatial audio processor and then only use it for spatial audio simulation in stereo.

That said, they've always claimed it's in the pipeline, but that it will take some time.
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Yep, I've been hoping from the beginning. Seems really dumb to spend all that time and effort making their own spatial audio processor and then only use it for spatial audio simulation in stereo.

That said, they've always claimed it's in the pipeline, but that it will take some time.
I'm glad that M.2 expansion came as quickly as it did. I was worried it would be like their TVs and still not have VRR implementation. Granted, PS5 still doesn't support VRR either..... SMH.
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Wow, How to de-rail a thread, please we do not care about your BS5 on this thread! Start your own thread! Now let’s get back to speakerssssss 🤤
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Before I decided to purchased the PRV AUDIO 8MR500-4 BULLET, I took a long look at the Timpano TPT-MR8-4 BULLET. Although the PVR is only $56, the Timpano is even cheaper at $36.95. Talk about budget friendly;) Ultimately, I couldn't get past the published Frequency range of 125 – 9,500 Hz of the Timpano:( Also, the PRV has more technical data published on it's driver:)
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So I ordered my speakers at the same time, as a set, yet Amazon shows one speaker "out for delivery" and the other "On the Way"



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The only concern I have about "pro" midrange/full range is the design goal is for high sensitivity. Not a bad thing but as you can see from the graph the on-axis performance is rasonable and can be "tamed" with EQ.

However my concern would be off-axis response since that actually is more of the use model for ATMOS.

For my ceiling midrange I use Wavecor WF152BD056" Balanced Drive Paper/Glass Fiber Cone Mid-Woofer 4 Ohm.

It is within your budget and they provide off axis information.
The only concern I have about "pro" midrange/full range is the design goal is for high sensitivity. Not a bad thing but as you can see from the graph the on-axis performance is rasonable and can be "tamed" with EQ.

However my concern would be off-axis response since that actually is more of the use model for ATMOS.

For my ceiling midrange I use Wavecor WF152BD056" Balanced Drive Paper/Glass Fiber Cone Mid-Woofer 4 Ohm.

It is within your budget and they provide off axis information.
Hmm, I'm not having any luck locating that specific driver, do you have a link?
Your off-axis response concern is legitimate. I don't see it being a problem for the front heights, as they will be pointed directly at the front row seating area. However, the rear heights may be a challenge. I'll have to find a way to angle mount them so they're aimed at the first row seating. Not concerned about the second row at the moment, as it is rarely occupied.
I attached the spec sheet....I use the 4 ohm version. Your front height speakers might benefit with this driver pointing upward slightly also.

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Depending on how much off-axis the power response is very manageable to get a flat response 15 to 30 degrees curves.
Nice looking driver. Definitely an option one should consider. However, today I take delivery of a set of the PRV drivers.
Delivered. Pics to follow.

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Been a long time since I've held a driver this small😬😯
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I thought the bullet in the center was thin collapsible material, but it is actually solid.
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I'm no expert when it comes to identifying build quality, but these aren't half bad:)

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