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DIY paint mixes look blotchy

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DIY paint mixes look blotchy. Im using biglyles 12 part mix over 3 coats of UPW high gloss. Ive put on 4 coats of the 12 part mix allowing it to dry over an hour on each coat. I can still see the UPW high gloss base coats coming through. Im using a high dense foam roller on a 3'x3' test panel of polywall. Ive painted both sides of the poly wall with the same results. It just doesnt seem to cover that well. If i sprayed it im sure it might seem better but dont have a sprayer. Am i doing something wrong? Is anyone else having the same problems with DIY mixes?
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DIY paint mixes look blotchy. Im using biglyles 12 part mix over 3 coats of UPW high gloss. Ive put on 4 coats of the 12 part mix allowing it to dry over an hour on each coat. I can still see the UPW high gloss base coats coming through. Im using a high dense foam roller on a 3'x3' test panel of polywall. Ive painted both sides of the poly wall with the same results. It just doesnt seem to cover that well. If i sprayed it im sure it might seem better but dont have a sprayer. Am i doing something wrong? Is anyone else having the same problems with DIY mixes?
Your foam roller is not laying down enough paint. I've had very good application results rolling these mixes (except for Canadian Gray) with a 1/4" nap roller on DoAble test panels and on 2mm mylar that I duct taped to DoAble test panels.


Here's how I've been rolling these with a 1/4" nap roller: load the roller, roll it in the pan a few times, roll it on a board for a couple feet or so to distribute the load on the roller and to get it about half loaded and then roll on the screen up and down over a 1 width section while over-lapping the previous section. Use medium pressure for the first 3 up and down passes and then very light pressure for another couple up and down passes when over-lapping the previous section. The "dry roller" technique will work too and should be done if needing a thin coat. It's basically the same as I just descibed except you unload more of the paint onto a separate board before rolling the screen. The "dry roller" technique may be best if you're trying to make use of a reflective base.


Also, I've found these mixes apply best on a very smooth surface. If rolling 3 coats of UPW high gloss with a foam roller got you a smooth base, then you're good. I know getting 3 coats of just UPW high gloss really smooth with a 1/4" nap roller is tough or impossible (for me). One way to help get a smooth high gloss base would be to use Floetrol with the first coat(s) and sand each coat except for the last one. Alternatively, I think pb_maxxx suggested mixing in minwax and water. Another way at this may be to use a white 1/8" thick white tile board for a substrate and reflective base. It may work well since it's smooth and reflective, and it would be easier than rolling UPW high gloss.
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DIY paint mixes look blotchy. Im using biglyles 12 part mix over 3 coats of UPW high gloss. Ive put on 4 coats of the 12 part mix allowing it to dry over an hour on each coat. I can still see the UPW high gloss base coats coming through. Im using a high dense foam roller on a 3'x3' test panel of polywall. Ive painted both sides of the poly wall with the same results. It just doesnt seem to cover that well. If i sprayed it im sure it might seem better but dont have a sprayer. Am i doing something wrong? Is anyone else having the same problems with DIY mixes?
I'll try to reproduce the reply I gave you when you PM'd me, because it seems to conflict with 1Time's advice. I've read in several places that if you have trouble getting paint to stick, a light sanding of the undercoat will give some tooth to the next layer.


It is quite possible that 1Time is correct in the amount of application. With neither of us actually seeing your work, it's difficult to diagnose.


Happy New Year!
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I've read in several places that if you have trouble getting paint to stick, a light sanding of the undercoat will give some tooth to the next layer.
I've read this too and although I have not tried this, I have to think very lightly sanding would help with getting paint to stick. It's just that one would not want to lightly sand over a reflective base since it would dull the reflectiveness. And so I'm thinking this sanding advise was meant for those who had no need of making use of the reflectiveness of the base coat or substrate.


Oh yah... Happy New Year!
I get a nice basecoat using the foam roller and UPW high gloss. I took Patricks advice and sanded one of the final 12 mix coats and the one i applied after the sanding looked alot better. Im definitly gonna try the nap roller though cause to sand a 120" screen will be a chore. Again thnx for the input and Happy New year to all. Oh one more question. How much paint will it take to do 3 good coats on a 120" diag. screen? I wanna make sure i mixed enough. I have about a quart and a half of mix.
My guess is 1.5 quarts would be enough. However, my main concern would be getting the right amount of translucency to make the best use of the base coat. That may take a few "good" coats or thin coats or some combination thereof. The brightness of your projector factors into this determination.


The safe way to do proceed would be first to roll a successful test panel that "reflects" images the way you like and thus how you will be rolling your screen. Then, allowing that test panel to cure a week would help determine whether that is how best to proceed.


Of course if you're more like me, you take an educated guess, go for broke, roll it and see what happens. This mix is not that unlike the MaxxMud mixes so I would expect them to cover about the same, with biglyle's 12i possibly being just slightly more translucent.
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