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If the following has already been mentioned on AVS Forum I haven't seen it. Changes to the HT/HTM speaker lineup have been posted on the DIYSG website:
@mtg90 said this:

The HTM-6, HTM-8 and HTM-10 have been replaced with the HT series which offers much of the same performance for a lower cost.

@Eric H said this:

The HTM-12 is going to be getting some changes. The new model wll be switching to a Celestion compression driver. It will also be getting a new custom designed woofer, it's based off the deltalite but has a copper shorting ring in the motor, longer voice coil, new cone, dustcap, spider and surround, and perhaps most important to some of you no more silver ring around the outside.

The new woofer was actually intended for use in a new Fusion line but since those woofers were already ordered, the stock of the 2512's was running low and the HTM-12 was going to need changes to move away from the DNA-325 anyway it was decided to put the new woofers to use in the HTM-12 as the new Fusion designs may have been a long while out. The new Hyperlite-12 woofer does loose a little sensitivity (now 95dB) but gains about 10Hz of bass extension in the same enclosure and gives more midbass kick then the original Deltalite.

With a new compression driver and woofer the crossover has also been redesigned though it retains much of the same voicing as the original. The main change being that the crossover point has been lowered to 1250hz to give better directivity matching between the woofer and waveguide and some minor response adjustments that I feel give a cleaner presentation in the midrange and treble.
 

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Does anyone know if the HT-6 will be back? I remember @Erich H saying that the HTM-6's did not sell well. Just wondering if this is the case for the HT-6 as well as I haven't seen them on the diysg website for a while.
 

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The HT-6's haven't actually gone up on the site yet. I ordered the woofers about a 1.5 years ago and had them sitting here ready to go but never opened any up. I had 2 initial samples that I got from Celestion and sent those to the designer to finish up the HT-6 crossover.

It was completely ready to go and I went to get a woofer to take the product photos for the site......and all the woofers Celestion sent me 1.5 years ago were completely different than what they were supposed to be! Some unusual custom 6" woofer that I've never seen before. So I had to reorder the correct woofers and they should be here any day now. Of course it's been so long that now I'm almost out of the HT compression driver and waiting on the next run of those. So who knows when the HT-6 will finally make it to the site.
 

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Yes sir. You can find it at the end of the 615 thread on the diysg site.
Well, thank goodness!

I was ready to order Titan 15's, but now I must wait. I don't really need the 15's, and now I know I don't need the 18's, but that horn needs to be tested.

I don't care if I never run them over 20% I guess?

Large horns can sound great up close, but how close is too much? We will find out.
 

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The Titan 818 horn image is hard to judge how much wider and taller the flair of each speaker's horn section really is over the 615. Are there physical measurements yet of how wide this new horn is compared to the 615? The horn flair portion looks to be 2 or 3 inches wider?

What is the height to width ratio of the new horn? Same as the 615?
 

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I'm just thinking out loud here regarding the Titan-818s, even though I can't magically accommodate what I am proposing.

This new Titan should form a new line up with dual 10" and 12" models to replace the similar '99 models. This way you could have the 818s as your LCR and the dual 10/12s as as your wides and surrounds with HT-10/12s for Atmos duty.

If I could build a totally dedicated room this is what I would aim for.
 

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Thanks @Erich H. I must've got it mixed up with the HTM-6. I thought I saw the HT-6 on there for a short period of time but apparently not. Lol.

Do you happen to know what the sensitivity of the HT-6 will be and the pricing of the kit with flat pack? I'm wanting to do HT-8's for LCR and either HT-6's or HT-8's for surrounds.
 

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The Titan 818 horn image is hard to judge how much wider and taller the flair of each speaker's horn section really is over the 615. Are there physical measurements yet of how wide this new horn is compared to the 615? The horn flair portion looks to be 2 or 3 inches wider?



What is the height to width ratio of the new horn? Same as the 615?

Here is some other info.... I think it uses bigger drivers too in the Horn

Eminence 18" woofer,
Celestion 8" midrange
Same Celestion compression driver as the 615LX.

99dB / 2.83v
8 Ohms.

350/1700hz crossover points.

In general just bigger/badder then the 615LX


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@Aaron37

about 18 months ago I did manage to get a pair of HTM6's
( the 8's were OS or I'd have bought those)
used as L/R in my mancave,
using an older Emo UPA 7, 125 wpc,
also driving the CC, an F6CC

the room can do 5.3.4

by all accounts from others, the HT6's are comparable,

the imaging. etc. for this pair is "joyfull"
props @mtg90
and the SEOS horn project


i.e. on the denon X5200, -20 on the MV is plenty, at about just under 7 feet

if the budget / room layout allows,
get the HT8's ALL AROUND

it's that nebulous "matched timbre" thing
not necessarily a "must" have but a comforting thought for any latent OCD
 

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Well, thank goodness!

I was ready to order Titan 15's, but now I must wait. I don't really need the 15's, and now I know I don't need the 18's, but that horn needs to be tested.

I don't care if I never run them over 20% I guess?

Large horns can sound great up close, but how close is too much? We will find out.
How long until some insane yahoo on here builds an LCR of Titan 836s?
 

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How long until some insane yahoo on here builds an LCR of Titan 836s?


The 1899 still isn’t totally sold out yet hehehehe


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I can fit cobalt 8's for my L+R. Is there a comparable smaller center? Or do I just have to man up and make a bigger horizontal center fit!
 

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@asarose247

Thanks for the info! Ya, I've always been curious about a 5.x system with the same speakers throughout. I've never experienced it before. Do you think there will be a noticeable difference with HT-6's as surrounds? They will be fairly close the MLP unfortunately (around 3' maybe 2'10") and I figure with the smaller seos and woofer, there will be less distance required between my ears and the speaker to allow the sound from the CD and woofer to blend without creating a lobing effect. I've also contemplated the volt 6's for the coaxial design but want to stay timbre matched ish.

That's the reason I'm considering the HT-6's for surrounds. They share the same Celestion CDX1-1445 tweeter and mtg90 has said that the HT's are timbre matched well. But I here you on the OCD part, on a complete matching speaker set. Although the placement in the room I think will have a bigger effect on them sounding slightly different, but I could be wrong. Matt has said that the HT-8's need 3-4' minimum to blend the woofer and CD and the HT-12's need minimum 6' but preferably more.

In my dedicated theater space (hopefully in 2 years) I want to do a 7.4.4 setup with HT-12's as LCR with HT-8's as surrounds and atmos. I was thinking about doing all speakers as HT-12's but I won't have 7' between the surrounds and the closest listeners. Also the HT-8's have a 40° (+/- 20°) vertical dispersion vs 30°'s for the HT-12's which should help with aiming the atmos speakers at all listening positions. Being not as deep is also benefit for mounting on the ceiling and making narrower columns. I thought about doing volt 8's for atmos but I've read that the HT's>volt's even for atmos provided you can aim them a bit towards the listening positions and the whole timbre matching thing as well. I'm a classic over analyser.
 

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Well, thank goodness!

I was ready to order Titan 15's, but now I must wait. I don't really need the 15's, and now I know I don't need the 18's, but that horn needs to be tested.

I don't care if I never run them over 20% I guess?

Large horns can sound great up close, but how close is too much? We will find out.
How long until some insane yahoo on here builds an LCR of Titan 836s?

I believe that after he sold the 630 titans the @eng399 was thinking of doing a set with 2 x 21" woofers. So i am sure that shortly after they are released someone will do a dual woofer version. Not because you need it but because no one has yet. That would be truly awesome.
 
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