615 (wide/shallow cabinet) vs. 818 (VBSS style cabinet), note the 615 cabinet here has feet mounted and the 818 does not:
Thanks for the comparison. I'm glad I went with the 818 specific 5 cuft bass bin to keep the waveguide sweet spot closer to the 615s height.
Install and configure UptimeRobot app your phone. Specify the Keyword as ‘out of order’ which is what the product page shows now. The app monitors the page every 5 mins for the keyword. When Erich updates the inventory, the key word will be gone and bingo, your phone raises the siren. Take it from the guy who made the first order and went yelling on the forum and FB page that it’s back on.Dag-on-it, I missed it!
How do you guys setup an alert when they are back in stock?
I don’t see any reason to wrap up all the individual port pieces. The plastic pieces like ports and the waveguide are perfect. No sign of rubbing or scuffing anywhere. I actually liked opening a box from you that wasn’t topped off with styrofoam chips and every single piece wrapped and double wrapped! It only took a few minutes to open everything, down from an hour per box on some other kits! LolThanks for the pictures. It looks like it arrived okay so that will make packaging go much better. My main concern was the horn basically being the same size as the box and then I wondered if the foam would sort of dull the horns finish, but it looks okay. Do you see any reason to wrap those individual port pieces?
When MTG90 and I worked on the Titan-615 we both thought the wide shallow cabinet would be very popular. Unfortunately I have about 90% of the original run of those cabinets still sitting on a pallet at the old shop......they rarely got built. Probably like 6-9 cabinets were ordered in that configuration over the course of a few years. They might end up in a fire pit at some point.Thanks for the comparison. I'm glad I went with the 818 specific 5 cuft bass bin to keep the waveguide sweet spot closer to the 615s height.
I think you had mentioned various flat packs will be available, will there be a shallow/wide variant for the 18?
I can do that. My measurements probably won’t be as good as published info by precision port and eminence, if you’re looking for cutout diameters etc.Jk7.2, any chance you could do some more measurements of the woofer and port parts for those of us building our own cabinets?
Yeah I got the port measurements, managed to find my last draft up for my 615s. Its the woofer I am not sure about and I'm not sure where to find the info directly from Eminence.I can do that. My measurements probably won’t be as good as published info by precision port and eminence, if you’re looking for cutout diameters etc.
Thanks Matt, found info on one of their drivers from Parts Express. Overall outside diameter 18" which we know, but the inside cutout diameter is 16.56". Just in case anyone else needs that tid bit of info.If you are looking for mounting dimensions the woofer uses the same cast frame as all the Eminence professional series 18's.
I hadn't seen your response yet, @realtight . What were your assumptions going in, and what was your overall takeaway? I'm quite curious to hear your impressions, whichever way it went.I've done a lot of testing and listening to level matched titans as well as custom JBL 4722n, blind and non blind. What would you like to know?
I PM'd the person that originally asked in detail since I didn't want to derail this thread, especially with all the excitement around this new product
Personally it depends on your room size and how much midbass you want. My room is big: 18.5'x40' and the dual 15" 2225h are monsters. The single 15 in the Titan if eq'd up would probably be good to, the new 18" will probably be as much as any sane human could ever want. That being said I would buy a subwoofer that can match those types of speakers in output below 60hz and go as deep as you can afford.Question: If we already have VBSS subs with the Dayton PA460 drivers, would they suffice so I wouldn't have to buy the subs, or would that be a mismatch (tuning, crossover, etc.)?
The 30" wide horn on the JBL is a beast. I thought about making something very similar but I don't think demand is high enough to justify a project like that.So I compared a custom diy JBL 4722n (2225h & 2453h-sl drivers) with the high-end Titan 15. I played them single speaker in mono, level matched with a Harmon curve applied with the ability to instantly switch between speakers as music is playing. I had myself and 6 other people listen blind with a variety of well recorded music.
I believe I read in a couple places that the Seos-24 behaves very similarly to the JBL 2384 waveguide both in how low it loads, top frequency extension as well as pattern... that with a 1.4 or 1.5 large format CD would be awesome, too bad the interest isn't there. That or with something like that new B&C 22" waveguide built for their new coaxial CD would be an awesome top end to an active midbass... then have multiple sized midbass options. That sort of combo seems to be an obsession for the Klipsch DIY people on their forum.The 30" wide horn on the JBL is a beast. I thought about making something very similar but I don't think demand is high enough to justify a project like that.
The larger horn and larger midrange in the 818 are improvements over the 615 model you demoed. I believe the designer said he also preferred the sound of the 8" Celestion over the 6" Eminence by a decent amount. Very curious what people think about the 18" woofer used in the new Titans.