DLP + Better Screens = No More CRT's?

I read a review of a DILA projector that was based on one of the 'victor' companies design, and the reviewer, whilst positive about the entire episode, flatly stated that the unit 'severely compressed the contrast level at the bottom of the contrast range, and could not do a real, true black'.

This was a 1500 lumen unit.


I can get a good, solid grey screen to you, bu there is nothing that can be done to actually create a greater contrast range than that which is produced by the projecting unit. The grey screen will help out considerably in the area of human perception.......


I just noticed while typing this that the lower left corner of my CRT projector is drifting out of focus. Is the season changing already?


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[This message has been edited by KBK (edited 09-27-2000).]

KBK -


You speak of human perception. As far as I am concerned, isn't that what

matters? If you think the popsicle tasts good, doesn't it?


Too many of my clients get into a spec war and forget that if 2 tv's have the features they want, than the one that looks best is in fact best. I guess there is a lot to say on both sides of ths issue.


Bottom line is that the people who are buying DLP, I-DLA and LCD are not people who have dedicated theater rooms... they are 99% of the population - people like me who want a big screen and are willing to give up that perfect picture and perfect room for it.


Dan


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Dan,


Some of us including KBK have advocated grey screens for just that reason. However, to get the full benefit of the grey screen, one benefits from a very bright projector.


This not just conjecture, both KBK and others like myself, are advocates of grey screens based on our experience. If you haven't already, you might want to search this forum for grey screens to see a history. KBK is perfecting paints for front projection and we are all anxious to see his first products.


I have a 1300 lumen LCD projector with about a 65% grey. I would prefer 3000 lumens and a 35% grey with some reflective gain in a very smooth screen. If a DILA and the screen could hit this, CRTs would have a tough run for their money, IMO.


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I remember when CD players became the rage. They sounded TERRIBLE and STILL do. Even the best out there cannot equal a good turntable.


So, when everyone went into panic mode, and started dumping their records, guys like me said, "YES!!!", and went into overdrive, cleaning up on all those nice collections in pristine shape. Records, records for everybody!


I am still listening to fantastic sounding records, and everyone else, whilst listening to a MEDIUM, that may be convienient, actually moved themselves FURTHER AWAY FROM THE SOURCE AND TRUE STRUCTURE OF THE MUSIC, and that within it that ACTUALLY MOVES YOU. It's too bad so few people out there were actually capable of hearing and understanding the difference. It was mostly a case of lack of knowing how to listen, not having 'golden ears'.


So most of you folks spent the last 15 years listening to something akin to skeletons being ground to dust on a metal roof, I manged to enjoy 15 years of MUSIC.


Too bad.


So, flush out your CRT's, the really expensive ones, and I'll step in and buy a working technology -at fire sale prices- and you can have the garbage, AGAIN!!. I'll look at and enjoy a working picture all the while, whilst you fret about how bad your new picture looks, and how far it has to go to be great. CRT's are great already. WHY give them up?


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[This message has been edited by KBK (edited 09-28-2000).]

I have done some reading on the grey screens that are being made. I would love to see one, or atleast a sample of what they can do. The highest output projector I have access to is a 1200ANSI lumen DLP - which to me the black level is terrible. (for obvious reasons)


To be honest, I havn't even seen the I-DLA powered up. I'm going to have to find one on my next day off and see what it looks like.


Smaller, Brighter, Cheaper... now were talking. http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif


Dan


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yes! And We must all wear greenish clothes, use old bakelite dial phones, and march up and down the square!


I love new technology, I am usually the one creating it. Or the place where it can come into being. But I never venture anywhere without contemplating the value and strength of the 'new purchase' -without taking into due consideration of any value within the old, that it may replace or supplant.


Reminds me of when I first started listening to Floyd at the age of 9.


"'Forward!', he cried,... from the rear,... and the front rank died."


It is interesting to note that the best jokes make it to the white house within 48 hours... It's funny, the way that some things travel, a whisper in an ear, an idea spoken aloud, a casual conversation with a traveling stranger....


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[This message has been edited by KBK (edited 09-30-2000).]



I SWEAR ON DLP, this is true:


Funny you should make those comments! As I drove to kinko's two days ago I was reflecting on recent posts that highlighted the communication breakdowns in question here.


This is the first time your DM analogy comes up in the forum, right?


Well, talk about telepathy...


While driving I actualy asked myself: "I wonder if these guys see me, as I see Deniss Miller?" Then as a sign of some kind: Two days later ...look what you wrote.


On the upside. At least with me you can re-read it, to make the figuring out less incomplete. : )


I'll clarify the above post..... It is not unlike our semitelepathic experience, that we just participated in.



I salute you fellow telepaths! YATOOH YATOOH!

I suppose it is okay to be seen as a "Dennis Miller"


Just don't RANT.. I hate that. I couldn't care less what DM likes or

dislikes, in fact - I bet my ranting here is a ingenious example of the

kind of crap I'm talking about.


By the way, if you goto < http://britannica.com/bcom/original/article/0,5744,13485,00.html&gt ;

you can find out what Dennis Miller IS saying.


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[This message has been edited by Dan Henderson (edited 10-07-2000).]