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Do i need full-time 1080p?

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I currently have a Panasonic 50" 720P Plasma with Directv service.


I would like to upgrade to a Panasonic 65" S14, but I am concerned that it doesn't have full-time 1080P (and I don't really know what that is).


The 65S1 does have full-time 1080P and that is the primary difference plus the S1 has a higher contrast ratio.


I do not need THX or VieraCast or 24P so I do not need a 65V10, although I will need a Blu-Ray player in the future.


Do I need full-time 1080P? Should I spend $500 more to get it and a higher contrast ratio?


Thanks in advance for your help.
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WTF is "full time 1080p"????



is there such a thing as a TV that is only 1080p part of the time?



I think you are confused by some marketing gibberish....
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... but I am concerned that it doesn't have full-time 1080P (and I don't really know what that is).
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Originally Posted by writenick /forum/post/18156535


I currently have a Panasonic 50" 720P Plasma with Directv service.


I would like to upgrade to a Panasonic 65" S14, but I am concerned that it doesn't have full-time 1080P (and I don't really know what that is).


The 65S1 does have full-time 1080P and that is the primary difference plus the S1 has a higher contrast ratio.


I do not need THX or VieraCast or 24P so I do not need a 65V10, although I will need a Blu-Ray player in the future.


Do I need full-time 1080P? Should I spend $500 more to get it and a higher contrast ratio?


Thanks in advance for your help.
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I have a similar model that I just purchased this past Saturday (50S14), and the "900 lines or more" motion resolution had me worried as well. After having watched a couple of movies, checking out various scenes from some Blurays and DVDs I'm familiar with, and throwing numerous test patterns at it, I have come to this conclusion: I can't perceive any noticeable resolution loss in motion. I'm also very picky about the picture quality.


I probably sit a bit too close for most people (around 4-5 feet), so I'm not very far from the TV at all. The motion resolution and native contrast ratio were the two things that made me try and get an S1, but I'm honestly extremely pleased with my 50S14. I couldn't tell you the difference in black levels between the two, though I should have my Eye One sometime next week to take some readings.


I'd say go for it. In-store the 50S14 didn't look all that great, but in my home it looks fantastic. I would recommend buying it from a place with a decent return policy if you can. Best Buy's 30-day policy is fine, but I'll take more if I can get it.
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I had the S14 from Costco. It was the display model and I ended up returning it because of burn in. I now have an S1.


Excepting the burn in, I could see no differerence between the 2.


A 2.35:1 bluray is only about 800 lines, so 900 should be plenty.
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My tv doesn't run 1080p on weekends.
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WTF is "full time 1080p"????



is there such a thing as a TV that is only 1080p part of the time?



I think you are confused by some marketing gibberish....
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It's in reference to many HDTVs' inability to maintain full resolution during motion scenes. A comment from a review :

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LCDs need 120 or 240 Hz to reduce motion blur. 60 Hz LCDs display about 300 out of 1080 lines per picture height (PPH) during motion, while 120 Hz LCDs max out at around 600 out of 1080. The V10 reproduces full 1080 PPH motion resolution, confirmed using the FPD test disc.
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According to Panasonic specs: the S1 series has "Full-Time 1080 TV lines moving picture resolution".


However, the S14 series only has 900 lines moving picture resolution, meaning not full time.


I was wondering how his affects actual viewing, especially since a 65" screen is so big that flaws or weaknesses would tend to show up easier.


What do you think?
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The TV industry is hilarious. So now not only does a person need to look for a 1080p tv...but they need to make sure that it's 1080p full time? This is will be next thing people will be using a magnifying glass for on their tv's.
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Originally Posted by prerunnerv6 /forum/post/18161262


The TV industry is hilarious. So now not only does a person need to look for a 1080p tv...but they need to make sure that it's 1080p full time? This is will be next thing people will be using a magnifying glass for on their tv's.
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This is one of the things that Home Theater Magazine and others test on sets because most sets (especially LCDs) cannot maintain 1080p during motion (even if they say they can).


I doubt you'd notice the difference between 900 and 1080 on moving pictures (usually it's only noticeable on test patterns)...less than that could be noticeable on slow pans
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Originally Posted by writenick /forum/post/18160867


According to Panasonic specs: the S1 series has "Full-Time 1080 TV lines moving picture resolution".


However, the S14 series only has 900 lines moving picture resolution, meaning not full time.


I was wondering how his affects actual viewing, especially since a 65" screen is so big that flaws or weaknesses would tend to show up easier.


What do you think?
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How far away will you be sitting?
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How far away will you be sitting?
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About 10', maybe 12'.
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My tv doesn't run 1080p on weekends.
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Gold. My set takes long lunches and rarely runs 1080p beyond 5PM.
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About 10', maybe 12'.
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I would say at that distance, any resolution loss while in motion would be negligible. I sit about 4-5 feet away from my 50-inch and my eyes can't perceive any loss in resolution. Not saying it isn't there, but that I just can't see it.
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