[dog schnorkl]

There are differences in price from online to online retailer in any given model hdtv and the cheaper the price, the more defectives seem to appear in the website of the online retailer's customer reviews. Samsung is not really known for using the same manufacurer for it's LCD monitors, I've read, and the 2010 (C series) both CCFL and LED back lit types have had many mechanical and electrical defects which have been solved in the 2011 (D series) models. However, the 2D and standard definition picture is not as good as in the C series. I've heard that it's because Samsung is making their LCD tv's more cheaply as time goes on and that the 3D and features are improving - more gimmicks, less beef. Any experience of whom I can be reasonably safe to buy last years model LCD tv or any thoughts in general about the picture quality of this years model LCD tvs?

 

[Otto Pylot]

There's always somewhat of a gamble buying big ticket items online. Most of us have done it and will continue to do so but you really need to do your homework first. Buy from an online retailer that you know about from personal experience, reviews, etc. But,as the saying goes, if the price seems to be to good to be true...........


There's been lots and lots of returns for various reasons so a good price on a tv may be a return item, with nothing more wrong with it than the original buyer didn't get his S-IPS panel or whatever. So they have to, or should, resell it as "used" and not at their full retail price.


READ THE FINE PRINT FOR RETURNS and understand what it says. I've seen folks have return issues on tv's because they bought at 37" and the fine print said no returns on tv's smaller that 42". Or there is a hefty restocking fee, or you have to pay for return shipping. If it's a reputable dealer, and you have read and understood their return policy, you should be ok as long as you've done your research on the particular model of tv you want. Buying tv's nowadays is not as easy as it used to be. Too many choices and marketing hype from all of the manufacturers. FWIW, I got educated here and then bought mine from our local BB.

 

[mes444]

Read thru the owner's threads for info on any particular model. If you by online, buy only from very well rated merchants, too good to be true prices are offered by mostly shady dealers. Last year's models will be a crap shoot as who knows where they got them, whether or not they are refurbs, etc.


The LEDs are the highest line tvs now. LCDs have fallen into a middle or lower level of tvs.


Reading the owner's threads will give you the best idea of quality.

 

[Ratman]



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Originally Posted by Otto Pylot /forum/post/20821234


READ THE FINE PRINT FOR RETURNS and understand what it says. I've seen folks have return issues ...

This should be the focus. You may "save" money, but if you have a problem upon delivery, by the time you return/exchange a defective product, you may lose money.


In other words... read, read and re-read to be absolutely sure you are getting a "deal" and won't get shafted with a return or exchange if necessary.

 

[dog schnorkl]

Do some Samsung LCD TVs ship without an S-IPS panel even though the specs say that the model you ordered comes with one? And, does BB stand for Bultetin Board or Best Buy?

dog schnorkl

 

[dog schnorkl]

The LEDs are the highest line tvs now. LCDs have fallen into a middle or lower level of tvs.[/quote]



You mean all LED TVs ofcourse, but you agree then, that this years LCD TVs are built more cheaply for overall quality especially when it comes to the picture quality. How then could the folks at Best Buy claim that this years LCD TVs have sucessfully addressed last year's reliability problems?


Reading the owner's threads will give you the best idea of quality.[/quote]


Do you mean that I should read the owner's threads of the Samsung TV's on this site or from the online retailer's site? However, threads on this years models would be fewer time spent with their tv and therefore the defect has not yet reared it's ugly head.

 

[Otto Pylot]



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Originally Posted by dog schnorkl /forum/post/20821751


Do some Samsung LCD TVs ship without an S-IPS panel even though the specs say that the model you ordered comes with one? And, does BB stand for Bultetin Board or Best Buy?

dog schnorkl

There are different types of IPS panels with various pros and cons for each. Just cause it has an IPS panel doesn't mean that it's an S-IPS. It could be an H-IPS. I don't know of any manufacturer who states what kind of IPS panel they use. It will vary from manufacturer to manufacturer and even from within the same line offered by a given manufacturer.


BB stands for Best Buy.

 

[Otto Pylot]



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Originally Posted by dog schnorkl /forum/post/20821809


The LEDs are the highest line tvs now. LCDs have fallen into a middle or lower level of tvs.

You mean all LED TVs ofcourse, but you agree then, that this years LCD TVs are built more cheaply for overall quality especially when it comes to the picture quality. How then could the folks at Best Buy claim that this years LCD TVs have sucessfully addressed last year's reliability problems?


Reading the owner's threads will give you the best idea of quality.[/quote]


Do you mean that I should read the owner's threads of the Samsung TV's on this site or from the online retailer's site? However, threads on this years models would be fewer time spent with their tv and therefore the defect has not yet reared it's ugly head.[/quote]


I don't quite agree with the LED comment. Besides, LEDs are still LCD tv's with LED lighting either edge lit or backlit. The pq on my LCD is exceptional (calibrated). Both technologies have their pros and cons so it depends on what you want out of your set, how you will use it, and what your budget is.


Read the users forums here for the model you are looking at. The online retailers site is nothing more than marketing from the tv manufacturers. They always sound good. Look for CNET reviews or something like that, but take those with a grain of salt. If you can't find any user comments or discussions here, the tv is probably too new for "real world" reviews or comments yet so you can either be cutting edge and get what ever it is your looking for and post your comments here, or wait, or pick a different model that has lots of discussions.

 

[dog schnorkl]

Thank you!

 

[BoilerJim]



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Originally Posted by dog schnorkl /forum/post/20821751


Do some Samsung LCD TVs ship without an S-IPS panel even though the specs say that the model you ordered comes with one? And, does BB stand for Bultetin Board or Best Buy?

dog schnorkl

I think you'll have to send back a hell of a lot of Samsungs if you want one with an IPS panel since (as far as I know) Samsung doesn't use IPS panels. If you want an IPS panel, you'll have to buy LG or Panasonic.


I think Otto Pylot has an LG.

 

[Otto Pylot]



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Originally Posted by BoilerJim /forum/post/20823670


I think you'll have to send back a hell of a lot of Samsungs if you want one with an IPS panel since (as far as I know) Samsung doesn't use IPS panels. If you want an IPS panel, you'll have to buy LG or Panasonic.


I think Otto Pylot has an LG.

Yes I do. A 47LD520 with the S-IPS panel.