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As discussed in the above posts, unless you can create your own colour profiles there’s no point in creating a custom EDID, as the two have to match each other.
Is it possible for me to create my own custom profile WITH filter for my X790. Seems the Autocal software filter switch is disabled unless you have a 990. Am I missing something?

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Is it possible for me to create my own custom profile WITH filter for my X790. Seems the Autocal software filter switch is disabled unless you have a 990. Am I missing something?

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You don't even need to be connected to the projector to create the profile, so it can't possibly be due to X790 vs X990.
 

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You don't even need to be connected to the projector to create the profile, so it can't possibly be due to X790 vs X990.
I know I read somewhere that there was a filter limitation, but you are absolutely correct, there is a wide setting and no projector connection needed.

Looking forward to playing with this.

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The NX models come with the DCI-P3 profile. For the e-shift models, many madVR users already use P3 for their ripped videos. If you don't have it then there's no particular reason to use that instead of the Sony A1 profile.

If you prefer the HDR picture mode, then just use the BT2020 EDID that Mark Swift created.
Just to echo what Claw said, it's an EDID to be loaded into a spare slot on your Vertex which allows you to use LLDV sources with a standard HDR setting on your PJ.
Thank you both for your hard work on this. And a shout out to @bmandraas well!

The BT2020 option is easier to manage while I don't have macros set up, so I am going that way. I did find that my standard HDR curve (Javs 85 nit or similar) was not bright enough, even adjusted to 1000/80 nit. I will have to fiddle with the inflection point. The colors looked muted - not sure of that is what you guys are considering more natural, but I did not like it. It definitely looked more like pre-WCG days, where colors could not fully saturate.

In the mean time, the ST.2084 gamma with picture tone turned up a couple notches looks great. I had not realized that the ST.2084 settings were universal until Dominic mentioned recently, so I will still need to work out a solution to correct brightness for varying ARs on my CIH screen. Can I read out the ST.2084 curve into Arves and manually duplicate it?
 

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Do you have a DB9 RS232 cable and 3.5mm audio extension cable run from the HDfury device to the JVC RS-232 port? That is the first step.


DB9 serial to 3.5mm audio cable to connect to the JVC serial port:

https://www.amazon.com/SHARPALIN-Female-Audio-DC3-5mm-Serial/dp/B01M3TIUEF/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=db-9+to+audio+3.5+mm+serial+cable&qid=1581696766&sr=8-2


25 foot 3.5 mm Audio extension cable to connect from the above cable to the HDfury serial port:

https://www.amazon.com/KabelDirekt-3-5mm-Female-Stereo-Extension/dp/B00RXNULH4/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=KabelDirekt+(25+feet)+3.5mm+Male+>+3.5mm+Female+Stereo+Audio+Extension+Cable+-+PRO+Series&qid=1581696885&sr=8-6

You can get a shorter one if 25 feet is not needed, or you can connect two extension cables together if the distance from your HDfury to the JVC is longer.


I have attached a screen shot of the Macros tab in my HDfury Diva.

SDR-BT709 (HDTV) for 60P
SDR-BT709 (Film) for 24P

- I have both of these set to DO NOTHING rather than have my JVC switch to my SDR-REC709 user mode. I do this so that the BT2020 filter does not click in and out each time playback of BT2020 material returns to an SDR menu. I watch so little SDR REC709 content that I manually select the user mode when I do.

SDR-BT2020 User 4

- User mode 4 is my SDR BT2020 picture mode. It is configured to use the BT2020 color filter and Gamma 2.4. Source is mainly MadVR playback of UHD discs.

3D
x.v.Color

- Both set to DO NOTHING as I don't watch 3D, and x.v.Color is for older JVC projectors.

HLG-BT709
HLG-BT2020

- Both are set to my User 6 custom user mode. I have a custom HLG curve loaded since my RS500 did not have HLG support like newer models do. I used to get HLG from Directv, but now limited to YouTube HLG videos.

Claw how are you I have 2 last questions for you..
What can i be doing wrong my directv only works with macro SDR-BT709 (Film) for 24P.. I was trying this yesterday while watching the nascar race
If i try directv with SDR-BT709 (HDTV) for 60P (picture mode natural) nothing happens..
The second question is i want to load the HLG curve you use.. Where can i find that and do i use autocal? Thank you
 

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The colors looked muted - not sure of that is what you guys are considering more natural, but I did not like it. It definitely looked more like pre-WCG days, where colors could not fully saturate.
By that, I mean the colours in LLDV mode match the colours in HDR10 with the correct profile and EOTF.

In the mean time, the ST.2084 gamma with picture tone turned up a couple notches looks great. I had not realized that the ST.2084 settings were universal until Dominic mentioned recently, so I will still need to work out a solution to correct brightness for varying ARs on my CIH screen. Can I read out the ST.2084 curve into Arves and manually duplicate it?
I don’t think it can be done; don’t see any reasons to do that anyway.
 

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By that, I mean the colours in LLDV mode match the colours in HDR10 with the correct profile and EOTF.
I have every reason to believe the problem is the HDR curve, but my expectations may be off as well. I was using Thor Ragnarok as my test as I am very familiar with how it looks in HDR10. Very bright colors, super saturated red in a few scenes, and those reds looked more burgundy than a primary color using the BT.2020 EDID and the Arve's curve. With the same EDID and 2084 settings from your own recommendation (amped up a little for LLDV) it still looked vibrant. I did not notice skin tone being off on either, so I don't think it is extra red, but as intended.
 

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Claw how are you I have 2 last questions for you..
What can i be doing wrong my directv only works with macro SDR-BT709 (Film) for 24P.. I was trying this yesterday while watching the nascar race
If i try directv with SDR-BT709 (HDTV) for 60P (picture mode natural) nothing happens..
The second question is i want to load the HLG curve you use.. Where can i find that and do i use autocal? Thank you
Manni's post in the 2015 JVC calibration thread that contains a zip file with Dolby Cinema Emulation curves and an HLG curve.

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/24-digital-hi-end-projectors-3-000-usd-msrp/2222586-official-jvc-rs600-rs500-x950r-x750r-x9000-x7000-owners-thread-931.html#post55408090

This is not an Arve curve. You use AccuCal to load the HLG curve to an open custom slot in the JVC.


What this 4K, 1080i, or 720p from Directv?

Some of the 4K channels have content in 24p while other content is 60p. The 1080i and 720p channels should be SDR REC709 60p unless something has changed since I discontinued service. Why would you have separate user modes for SDR REC709 24p vs 60p? I would just set the same user mode in both macros.
 

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I have every reason to believe the problem is the HDR curve, but my expectations may be off as well. I was using Thor Ragnarok as my test as I am very familiar with how it looks in HDR10. Very bright colors, super saturated red in a few scenes, and those reds looked more burgundy than a primary color using the BT.2020 EDID and the Arve's curve.
Which player? With ATV4K you can toggle between Dolby Vision and HDR10 easily, without changing the profile or gamma.
 

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Which player? With ATV4K you can toggle between Dolby Vision and HDR10 easily, without changing the profile or gamma.
Yes I was using the ATV4K. To swap I disable color space matching and manually select it?

It is possible I had modified the curve but I could not remember doing so. I started from Javs original version when I changed it to 1000/80. I can compare to the curve I was using previously as I still have it in another slot.
 

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Manni's post in the 2015 JVC calibration thread that contains a zip file with Dolby Cinema Emulation curves and an HLG curve.

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/24-digital-hi-end-projectors-3-000-usd-msrp/2222586-official-jvc-rs600-rs500-x950r-x750r-x9000-x7000-owners-thread-931.html#post55408090

This is not an Arve curve. You use AccuCal to load the HLG curve to an open custom slot in the JVC.


What this 4K, 1080i, or 720p from Directv?

Some of the 4K channels have content in 24p while other content is 60p. The 1080i and 720p channels should be SDR REC709 60p unless something has changed since I discontinued service. Why would you have separate user modes for SDR REC709 24p vs 60p? I would just set the same user mode in both macros.
Got it.. Thank you so much...
 

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Yes I was using the ATV4K. To swap I disable color space matching and manually select it?

It is possible I had modified the curve but I could not remember doing so. I started from Javs original version when I changed it to 1000/80. I can compare to the curve I was using previously as I still have it in another slmot.
No, to swap you just select Dolby Vision or HDR. Do no change Matching for the comparison.
 

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Back at it!! Downloaded your A1 profile @Dominic Chan. Now I do have the 1200/80 "brighter" v3 Javs curve loaded for my HDR. I adjusted the bo and the black level with ARves Tool and it looks ok to me. However, I do have a slot or two left to try your curve. From memory, I tested my output and it was around the 100nit (or higher) in HDR high lamp. Should I use your 1200/85? Then I read from your original post the download is linked to that we might need some compensation for x7x0 / x9x0 as the curves were made for the x500 series. Since I have x770, you think I need to do anything? As always thanks for all you do!
 

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Back at it!! Downloaded your A1 profile @Dominic Chan. Now I do have the 1200/80 "brighter" v3 Javs curve loaded for my HDR. I adjusted the bo and the black level with ARves Tool and it looks ok to me. However, I do have a slot or two left to try your curve. From memory, I tested my output and it was around the 100nit (or higher) in HDR high lamp. Should I use your 1200/85? Then I read from your original post the download is linked to that we might need some compensation for x7x0 / x9x0 as the curves were made for the x500 series. Since I have x770, you think I need to do anything? As always thanks for all you do!
I would actually recommend using Javs curves, unless you need more brightness than what they’re designed for.

Most of my jgd curves include black compensation. Some people like the additional shadow details, others prefer not using them, to get higher visual contrast. The only way to find out is to try them.
 

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I would actually recommend using Javs curves, unless you need more brightness than what they’re designed for.



Most of my jgd curves include black compensation. Some people like the additional shadow details, others prefer not using them, to get higher visual contrast. The only way to find out is to try them.


Thanks Dominic!! I tried yours in my slot 3 gamma and yup...too bright for my setup so things look good with Javs curve. One thing I noticed is the that LLDV A1F colour profiles is not kicking in my filter on my x770. Is there something I need to do in my settings?

Edit. And sorry I think I read somewhere that you realized after that the flag was not checked for that version. Did I grab an older one ?


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Thanks Dominic!! I tried yours in my slot 3 gamma and yup...too bright for my setup so things look good with Javs curve. One thing I noticed is the that LLDV A1F colour profiles is not kicking in my filter on my x770. Is there something I need to do in my settings?
Sometimes you need to restart the projector before the filter behaves as expected.
 

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How long before someone creates a nice PDF of how to do this for those of us who are not computer programmers or custom calibrators?

A nice PDF called "Projector Dolby Vision & DTM for Dummies"?

I'd gladly hit the donate button pretty quickly for whomever takes this on.

Also, does this eliminate the need to have a Vertex automatically change the JVC preset based on the MaxFLL & CLL of the current content? If it doesn't negate that need, I'd also donate for a step by step PDF for that process.
Someone? Anyone? I'll put $20 toward a good, easy, step by step for dummies version of this.
 

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If you need a string that is set to DCI-P3 primaries as a starting point, to avoid any issues with the Sony A1 profile, I produced this one.

Code:
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