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Downside to switching to a PJ?

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Hi Guys

I posted this in the projector section, but I am open to any feedback from Plasma devotees who think I am making a mistake:


I have been a happy plasma owner for 3 years (pio 5030HD).


Given that I have upgraded some of my source components (i.e. I went to a Denon 3910 for DVD) I now want something with HDCP compliant DVI/HDMI and I have looked at upgrading my plasma.


After looking at plasmas again I am kind of intrigued that a good PJ can apparently be had in the $5K-7K range, so why shouldn't I switch to say a ~90+ inch screen with a pj versus a plasma with a smaller screen?


I have a dedicated room, with fairly well controlled lighting (only 1 side has glass to outside and it is well shaded, no direct sunlight,with a very heavy curtain).


I think my wife would love a retractable screen, since it would make the room more flexible for other uses (she doesn't like the plasma dominating the wall...).


Probably use it 90% for movies, both DVD and high def over cable , but occasionally watch some TV down there also.


I did audition some PJ's, I did not seem to have any issues with rainbow effect or wheel/fan noise.


So after the (very) long-winded setup...


Has anyone made this switch and were they happy or disappointed?


And any suggestions/pitfalls that I should take into account if/when making this switch?
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I have both and it depends on what you want. I use my plasma during the day and the projector at night. you will not be able to use it during the day unless you have it dark. but i love both of them so i kept both.
I am going the other way. I have had a FP for the last three years and I am moving and doing my next media room with a plasma. Sitting in the dark is great for movies but sucks for tv, video games, etc.
I favor both, one annoyance with projectors is they have to warm up.
look at my gallery, my set up is not quite done yet its work in progress but i am buying a plasma soon for my lauriel plasma table, i have a nice infocus 4805 projector with a 92" high power screen that will roll down in front of my plasma and table, it should look cool when its all done...plasma for daytime viewing and big screen for night, best of both worlds...
While I love watching movies and playing games on a 130 inch screen, the downsides are not really being in a dark room, but rather its not great for just TV channel flipping. Ideally you want to have both. Since you already have a plasma, just have a screen drop from the ceiling when you want to watch movies in the dark. But trust the people here who have stated...you really want to have both as a FP alone is sort of a pain to use all the time.
I have a Panny 480p and a Infocus 480P. They are a great combination. And the total cost of both is less than $3400. And you do not have to spend more money than that at this time to get great PQ from DVDs and front HD content. A person can spend $1000's more and get a little better overall picture. But the colors, alone, on the plasma and on the Infocus projector are difficult to better at any price. I have done much comparing for months and really believe the Panasonic commercial plasma and the Infocus 4805 projector are best buys. Together, they make a great entertainment combo in the modern home. I have my screen on a tripod and move it to different areas within our home. It takes 3-4 minutes to set up, less to take down, and the rest of the time it is put away in a closet.
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Originally posted by Abell2218
...After looking at plasmas again I am kind of intrigued that a good PJ can apparently be had in the $5K-7K range, so why shouldn't I switch to say a ~90+ inch screen with a pj versus a plasma with a smaller screen?....
Hello Abell:

I have long lusted after a decent front-projector. In this effort, I have repeatedly visited both my high-end stores and my low-end stores. NO JOY. ALL FP'S STILL SUCK....

My Opinion Only,

AMc
Lemme guess, a.macree thinks anyone buying a front projector needs their head examined, right? Is that what it says in his post?


Boy, some people.


I think it's clear that the downsides of startup time, room light, etc. are real, which is why mangony has the best of both worlds -- albeit with issues of cabling, setup, etc.


If I could have only one, it'd have to be the plasma. But saving pennies on each -- a la mango -- is such a great way to balance things and get all the benefits of both technologies (save for a high pixel count).


Oh, and the most serious videophiles here at AVS -- by and large -- all own serious projectors.
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....Oh, and the most serious videophiles here at AVS -- by and large -- all own serious projectors.
"Serious projectors" is a major oxymoron. QED.

AMc

PS: "Don't Cry For Me Palo Alto"....

:D

A.
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Has anyone made this switch and were they happy or disappointed?


And any suggestions/pitfalls that I should take into account if/when making this switch?
It really depends on what you and yours want.


It is like asking us which we would choose, the fillet mignon or the lobster, the Corvette or the Escalade?


If the biggest picture you can get is of paramount importance, then the pj wins. Best picture is the plasma but size is a limitation.


Most people will put up with the idiosyncrasies of a front projector because the picture is way bigger.


Personally I prefer a glass tube picture or plasma so much more so that I do not care about getting the biggest screen.


You might want to hedge your bets by getting a projector you can return if you choose or use it as an alternative to the plasma in the same room at different times.


They are really very different visual experiences. The plasma has a certain picture quality that I believe is far more appealing than even the best projection systems. But that's me.


I believe most videophiles will choose the serious projector set-up at $20,000 plus. I do not believe many if any would keep it if they could get a plasma of the same size for $40,000.
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Now that I have both (total cost $3400), I would not want to give up either! If I had to give up one, iI would give up the projector. Because the image is much smaller on the plasma, the absolute picture quality is a touch better. Also, the plasma can be used in light and dark areas. But, for its' intented uses, I am most pleased with the Infocus 4805. I bought it for certain occasions and it is filling those occasions very well.
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I favor both, one annoyance with projectors is they have to warm up.
I have a PJ and the warm up time is barely 10-15 seconds. Also, you don't need to be in the dark, I often use mine with all the lights on and it's still a very good image. I have pictures here that show it with lights on and the window open during the day:

http://auctionautobidder.com/projector.html
A Macree, you really can't be serious. If you really believe taht all front projectors suck, then you obviously haven't seen a properly setup display or you wouldn't know a good image if it bit you in the ass.

And Rogo is right, serious videophiles everywhere use front projection. No serious videophile uses a plasma or any other type display for anything more demanding than CNN and Sportscenter.
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