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DTV Capture Card Overview

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S1. Overview of How DTV cards Work

I will write a description soon.


a) how analog cards work -- provides background context


b) how digital cards work i) software decoding and ii) hardware decoding


c) how do I get qam (MCE, Sage, .... )


d) why can't I use my cable or sat stb; aka component in, dvi in


e) reception variabilities
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S2. Hardware Aspects

A. "Software" Decoding Cards

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ADS Tech

Instant HDTV PCI (PTV-380-EF)
  • Frontend: Philips TUV1236D NIM; dual RF input

    Tuner: Infineon Taifun TUA6034T

    Demodulator(s):philips TDA9887 ?; ATI/NXT2004
  • A/V Decoder(s)/PCI Bridge: Philips saa7134
  • A/V inputs: None
  • Remote Control: (IR) remote included (plugs into card via port on riser)
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ATI

HDTV Wonder
  • Frontend: Philips TUV1236D NIM; dual RF input

    Tuner: Infineon Taifun TUA6034T (A1)

    Demodulator(s):philips TDA9887 ?; ATI/NXT2004
  • A/V Decoder(s)/PCI Bridge: Conexant cx2388x
  • A/V inputs: via dongle; s-video in, composite in , audio in
  • Remote Control: (RF) "Remote Wonder" included (USB)
  • Indoor antenna included (looks to be Terk's HDTVi ? model)
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Avermedia

AVerTVHD MCE A180
  • Frontend: Alps TDHU NIM; single RF input

    Tuner:?

    Demodulator(s): analog demodular likely absent; ATI/NXT2004
  • A/V Decoder(s)/PCI Bridge: Philips SAA7133
  • A/V inputs: S-video, Composite Video, Stereo Audio input
  • Remote Control: None
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Dvico

A note about the 5 series gold and silver models
  • blah blah blah

FusionHDTV5 Gold
  • Frontend: LG Innotek TDVS-H062F NIM; single RF input

    Tuner: Infineon Taifun TUA6034

    Demodulator(s): Philips TDA9887; LG DT3303
  • A/V Decoder(s)/PCI Bridge: Conexant CX2388x
  • A/V inputs: via dongle;
  • Remote Control: (IR) remote included (USB)

FusionHDTV5 Lite
  • Frontend: LG Innotek TDVS-H062F NIM; single RF input

    Tuner: Infineon Taifun TUA6034

    Demodulator(s): Philips TDA9887; LG DT3303
  • A/V Decoder(s)/PCI Bridge: Conexant Fusion 878A
  • A/V inputs: Access to A/V dongle port blocked by riser bracket (but they work * .... dremel time!). Note: Apparently the riser on Korean model does not block access to the port.

    * Video in works,(but I'm not sure audio would as I don't think the bt878a has an audio in muxer ... i.e. some other IC(s) for audio in processing would be required)
  • Remote Control: not included .... however, Dvico's (IR) remote (USB) can be purchased seperately

FusionHDTV5 USB
  • Frontend: LG Innotek TDVS-H062F NIM; single RF input

    Tuner: Infineon Taifun TUA6034

    Demodulator(s): Philips TDA9887; LG DT3303
  • A/V Decoder(s)/ PCI/USB Bridge: Conexant CX25843; Cirrus Logic/Crystal 533KZ *; Cypress CY7C68013A.

    *I have no idea why this audio decoder is present i.e. why would they be using it in lieu of the conexant a/v decoder ?
  • A/V inputs via dongle; s-video in, composite in, audio in
  • DVHS compatible Firewire/1394a out
  • Remote Control: remote included
  • Telescoping antenna included
  • Bus powered (i.e. no power brick)

A note about the 3 series gold and silver models
  • blah blah blah

FusionHDTV3 Gold QAM-T aka FusionHDTV3 Gold T
  • Frontend: Thomson DTT 7611 Analog NIM; single RF input

    Tuner:Infineon Taifun TUA6034 ?

    Demodulator(s): Philips TDA9887; LG DT3302 (external)
  • A/V Decoder(s)/PCI Bridge: Conexant CX23881
  • A/V inputs via dongle; s-video in, composite in, audio in
  • Remote control (usb) included. (Note: first shipments included older serial remote control IIRC)

FusionHDTV3 Gold QAM aka FusionHDTV3 Gold Q, aka FusionTV-HDR Gold
  • Frontend: Temic/Microtune MT4042 Analog NIM; dual RF input

    Tuner:philips SA5523 & Philips TDA5737M

    Demodulator(s): Philips TDA9801T; LG DT3302 (external)

    Note: this model uses a daughter board that contains the digital demodulator (the LG IC)
  • A/V Decoder(s)/PCI Bridge: Conexant CX23881
  • A/V inputs via dongle; s-video in, composite in, audio in
  • Remote control (serial) included.

FusionHDTV3 Gold
  • Frontend: Temic/Microtune MT4042 Analog NIM; dual RF input

    Tuner:philips SA5523 & Philips TDA5737M

    Demodulator(s): Philips TDA9801T; LG DT3302 (external)
  • A/V Decoder(s)/PCI Bridge: Conexant CX23881
  • A/V inputs via dongle; s-video in, composite in, audio in
  • Remote control (serial) included.

A note about the 2 series models
  • blah blah blah

FusionHDTV2


FusionHDTV
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Fujiplus

FD-3250
  • Frontend: Philips TUV1236D NIM; dual RF input

    Tuner: Infineon Taifun TUA6034T

    Demodulator(s):philips TDA9887 ?; ATI/NXT2004
  • A/V Decoder(s)/PCI Bridge: Conexant 878A
  • A/V inputs
  • remote ?
  • Note: I believe this card is made by Twinhan for Min Maw International, who then sells it under the "Fujiplus" moniker

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Kworld

ATSC-110
  • Frontend: Philips TUV1236D NIM; dual RF input

    Tuner: Infineon Taifun TUA6034T

    Demodulator(s):philips TDA9887 ?; ATI/NXT2004
  • A/V Decoder(s)/PCI Bridge: Philips saa713x
  • A/V inputs: S-Video Input, Composite Input, Audio in, Audio out
  • Remote Control: (IR) remote included (plugs into card via port on riser)
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OnAir/Sasem

OnAirUSB-HDTV
  • Frontend: Philips [color]??1236D ?
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  • ; dual RF input

    Tuner:?

    Demodulator(s): ?; LG DT3302 (external) ?
  • A/V Decoder(s)/ PCI/USB Bridge: ?
  • MPEG2 Encoder: Conexant CX23416 (Note: this is used only for analog input sources...see S1.(b) for explanation)
  • A/V inputs: S-Video‚ Composite Input
  • Remote Control: ?


OnAir DTV-2000
  • No info
  • Korean Market only?

OnAir DTV-1500
  • No info
  • Korean Market only?
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pcHDTV

HD-3000
  • Frontend: Thomson DTT 7610 Analog NIM; single RF input

    Tuner:Infineon Taifun TUA6034?

    Demodulator(s): Philips TDA9887; Oren OR51132 (external)
  • A/V Decoder(s)/PCI Bridge: Conexant CX23283
  • A/V inputs

HD-2000
  • Frontend: Philips ??1236D Analog NIM ?; dual RF input

    Tuner:?
  • Demodulator(s): ?; Oren OR51211 ? (external)
  • A/V Decoder(s)/PCI Bridge: Conexant 878A
  • No A/V inputs
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TechniSat/BBTI

AirStar HD5000 ATSC
  • Frontend: LG Innotek TDVS-H062F NIM; single RF input

    Tuner: Infineon Taifun TUA6034

    Demodulator(s): Philips TDA9887 *; LG DT3303
  • A/V Decoder(s)/PCI Bridge: B2C2 FlexCop II *

    * Note: the FlexCop IC is not a decoder; meaning no analog support - i.e. no analog tv or a/v input)
  • Remote Control: none

Air2PC ATSC r0.3
  • Frontend: ?; single RF input

    Tuner:?

    Demodulator(s): ATI/NxtWave NXT2002
  • A/V Decoder(s)/PCI Bridge: B2C2 FlexCop II *

    * Note: the FlexCop IC is not a decoder; meaning no analog support - i.e. no analog tv or a/v input)
  • Remote Control: none


Air2PC ATSC r0.2
  • Frontend: ?; single RF input

    Tuner:?

    Demodulator(s): Broadcom 3510
  • A/V Decoder(s)/PCI Bridge: B2C2 FlexCop II *

    * Note: the FlexCop IC is not a decoder; meaning no analog support - i.e. no analog tv or a/v input)
  • Remote Control: none
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VBox

Cat's Eye (DTA) 151
  • Frontend: Thomson DTF86xx ? NIM; single RF input

    Tuner:?

    Demodulator(s): ? ; ?
  • A/V Decoder(s)/PCI Bridge: SkyTune Sky951
  • A/V inputs;
  • No remote control
  • low profile card

Cat's Eye (DTA) 150
  • Frontend: Thomson DTF86xx ? NIM; single RF input

    Tuner:?

    Demodulator(s): ? ; ?
  • A/V Decoder(s)/ PCI Bridge: SkyTune Sky951
  • no A/V inputs
  • no remote

Cat's Eye USB 3560
  • No info currently
  • Bus powered (i.e. no power brick)


ATSC 2060 DTT 150 rev.B ?
  • Dual RF. No other info.
  • May be an older Broadlogic product ?


Some items coming up:

- add Dvico series models blurbs

- add the remaining early Dvico models

- add Savitmicro/ATM anysee 30 & 50 series
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B. "Hardware" Decoding Cards

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Digital Stream Technology

HiDTV Pro 2



HiDTV Pro
  • Frontend: Thomson DTF8603 NIM; dual RF input

    Tuner:?

    Demodulator(s): ?; ATI/NxtWave NXT2000
  • A/V Decoder(s)/PCI Bridge: ?
  • Mpeg2 Decoder/PCI Bridge: Zoran/TeraLogic Janus TL880
  • A/V inputs
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Hauppauge

WinTV-HD 00698; debuted ~2001
  • Frontend: Philips FCV1236D/F NIM; dual RF input

    Tuner:?

    Demodulator(s): ?; ATI/NxtWave NXT2000
  • A/V Decoder(s)/PCI Bridge: Micronas VPX3226E (Video); Micronas MSP3448G (audio)
  • Mpeg2 Decoder/PCI Bridge: Zoran/TeraLogic Janus TL880
  • 16MB SDRAM
  • A/V inputs
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iTech

AccessDTV ; debuted ~2001
  • Frontend: Philips FCV1236D/F NIM; dual RF input

    Tuner:?

    Demodulator(s): ?; ATI/NxtWave NXT2000
  • A/V Decoder(s)/PCI Bridge: Micronas VPX 3225D (Video); Philips TDA9851T (audio)
  • Mpeg2 Decoder/PCI Bridge: Zoran/TeraLogic Janus TL880
  • Scaler: Philips SAA7146A
  • 16MB SDRAM
  • A/V inputs
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Macro Image Technology

MyHD MDP-130 ; debuted Jan 2005
  • Frontend: Philips TUV1236D NIM; dual RF input

    Tuner: Infineon Taifun TUA6034T

    Demodulator(s):philips TDA9887 ?; ATI/NxtWave NXT2004
  • A/V Decoder(s)/PCI Bridge: Micronas AVF4913A
  • Mpeg2 Decoder/PCI Bridge: Zoran/TeraLogic Janus TL880
  • 16MB SDRAM
  • A/V inputs

MyHD MDP-120 ;
  • Frontend: Philips FCV1236D/F NIM; dual RF input

    Tuner:?

    Demodulator(s): ?; ATI/NxtWave NXT2002
  • A/V Decoder(s)/PCI Bridge: Micronas VPX3226E (Video); Micronas MSP3440G (audio)
  • Mpeg2 Decoder/PCI Bridge: Zoran/TeraLogic Janus TL880
  • 16MB SDRAM
  • A/V inputs

MyHD MDP-100
  • Frontend: Philips FCV1236D/F NIM; dual RF input

    Tuner:?

    Demodulator(s): ?; ATI/NxtWave NXT2000
  • A/V Decoder(s)/PCI Bridge: Micronas VPX3226E (Video); Micronas MSP3440G (audio)
  • Mpeg2 Decoder/PCI Bridge: Zoran/TeraLogic Janus TL880
  • 16MB SDRAM
  • A/V inputs
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OnAir/Sasem

OnAir DTV PRO
  • Frontend: ?

    Tuner:?

    Demodulator(s): ?; ?
  • A/V Decoder(s)/PCI Bridge: ?
  • Mpeg2 Decoder/PCI Bridge: Zoran/TeraLogic Janus TL880
  • Korean Market only?
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Sencore

998
  • No info. Broadcom based A/V Decoder ?
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Teleman

HiPix DTV-200
  • Frontend: Microtune/Temic MT4042 Analog NIM; dual RF input

    Tuner:philips SA5523 & Philips TDA5737M

    Demodulator(s): Philips TDA9801T; Oren OR51210HQC (external)
  • Decoder(s)/PCI Bridge: Micronas VPX 3226E (Video); Cirrus Logic/Crystal CS5330AKS (audio)
  • Mpeg2 Decoder/PCI Bridge: Zoran/TeraLogic Janus TL880
  • NTSC TV-Out: Analog Devices ADV7176AKS

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Although not a capture card, I thought the following HD capable decoding card certainly deserves mention (as would others...but I'm not aware of any at the moment):

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Allwell

EM8621L (Dxr6)
  • Mpeg2 Decoder: Sigma Designs EM8621L (also does WMV9/VC-1)
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