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Dual format owners. Best HD optical POTC or The Matrix?

4068 Views 41 Replies 32 Participants Last post by nyg, May 31, 2007

shadowrage

Discussion Starter · May 20, 2007

This is a poll for dual format owners. I know neither of these are released but a few have both now and tuesday is right around the corner.

Films aside which disc has the best audio and picture quality.

I will not vote since neither have arrived yet.

This isn't meant as which format is better since both have had pretty much equal PQ and AQ. I am just wondering which films people perceive as being the best in HD quality.

Note: Reloaded and Revolutions are placed together since they were filmed simultaneously.

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PSound

· #2 · May 21, 2007

A perfect three way split between Dead Man's Chest and two Matrix choices!

TheLion

· #3 · May 23, 2007

Dead Man's Chest hands down. There is not a single shot in the Matrix trilogy that rivals this release.

That being said Matrix was a very pleasant surprise coming from Warner. It certainly looks much more defined than any other release from them and I'm VERY happy with this purchase. Matrix I shows clear edge enhancement ringing/halos and pumped up contrast (loosing highlight and shadow details (windows in the Dojo...) but still is good. Part 2 and 3 are great. Not in the league of King Kong or Riddick but really good.

NOTHING touches Dead Man's Chest for PQ, AQ (

) and production design/value though. Hands down the very best HD release yet.

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TheLion

· #4 · May 23, 2007

The results show just how objective the vots in this poll are

Is there really a single person out there who has seen Matrix and PotC and prefers the trilogy PQ wise? If so, come out and tell us your name...

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Andrew P

· #5 · May 23, 2007

I thought The Matrix was the best transfer I have seen (but it could be due to the fact that I greatly disliked POTC as a movie). Both are very close, but I voted The Matrix.

TheLion

· #6 · May 23, 2007

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Originally Posted by Andrew P /forum/post/0

I thought The Matrix was the best transfer I have seen (but it could be due to the fact that I greatly disliked POTC as a movie). Both are very close, but I voted The Matrix.

What's your setup, Andrew?

Jiffylush

· #7 · May 23, 2007

Did not vote because I am not dual format...

Why not public?

TheLion

· #8 · May 23, 2007

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Originally Posted by Jiffylush /forum/post/0

Did not vote because I am not dual format...

Why not public?

I second that - make it public.

Andrew P

· #9 · May 23, 2007

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Originally Posted by TheLion /forum/post/0

What's your setup, Andrew?

Sony VPL-VW50 and VPL-VW100 using a 96" Firehawk screen in a light controlled room. I thought about upgrading to the RS-1, but not enough improvement for me. I will wait for the next Sony projectors to be announced.

Video connections are as follows:

Blu Ray-PS3 via HDMI

HDDVD-HD-A2 via HDMI

For audio, I have a placeholder (sold my old Onkyo) receiver with a 7.1 channel speaker setup. I am anxiously awaiting the new Onkyo SR-805.

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FrancescoP

· #10 · May 23, 2007

Add the names please.

P.S:

I'll vote as soon I got my hands on both titles.

JE3146

· #11 · May 23, 2007

Watched both last night.

POTC won hands down. I can't even believe the hype surrounding the first Matrix.

Top Tier 1 definately, but not the greatest.

Gonna watch the other two this week. I've heard they're better, so who knows.

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rdjam

· #12 · May 23, 2007

Both films are very good transfers, but I thought the contrast on the POC was a bit off.

What helps the presentation of the POC disc is that so much of it was in daylight versus many of the dark scenes of the Matrix. Also, the colors of the films are very different, which could fool people into thinking POC was better, since it has a more natural range of colors than the Matrix, by directorial intent in both cases.

But on equivalent scenes, the Matrix was a sharper transfer.

Also, when the action starts, the Matrix discs hold the picture together much better than POC.

shadowrage

Discussion Starter · #13 · May 25, 2007

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Originally Posted by TheLion /forum/post/0

I second that - make it public.

What do you mean by public?

I chose dual format so this won't turn into a battle.

BTBuck1

· #14 · May 25, 2007

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Originally Posted by benes /forum/post/0

In terms of PQ Pirates wins this battle hands down. Matrix is nowhere near a 5 star transfer.

IMO pirates is showing off the merits of HD much more than The Matrix movies.

The matrix movies hardly look more detailed than the DVD's (which btw were excellent dvd's) The Pirates movies on the other hand are night and day better.

Then, in terms of sound. The Pirates movies just at 640kbps sound more impressive than the Matrix movies in TrueHD. LPCM 5.1 on the pirates just gobbles up the TrueHD encodes and poops em out.

Don't get me wrong I am stokked to own both, and wouldn't have it any other way. But IMO the Pirates are doing more for Blu-ray than the Matrix is for HDDVD.

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skawhomp

· #15 · May 25, 2007

I'm completely torn. Reloaded+Revolutions blew me away, especially in the fast motion scenes.

POTC on the other hand is a worlds better transfer than the DVD release, and thus has more shock value in terms of its PQ. Also, the daylight scenes and ILM's lighting work on the night scenes with the skeletons were simply amazing.

All in all, I gotta throw up my hands and say I just don't know which one is better. POTC impressed me more initially due to its more varied color palette, but when watching when going back and doing side by sides with the Matrix, especially in fast action scenes, it also made me feel every penny I've spent on all this crap was worth it.

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BTBuck1

· #16 · May 25, 2007

anyone else notice the artifacting on some face shots of the agents in the matrix?

WiFi-Spy

· #17 · May 25, 2007

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Originally Posted by rdjam /forum/post/0

Both films are very good transfers, but I thought the contrast on the POC was a bit off.

What helps the presentation of the POC disc is that so much of it was in daylight versus many of the dark scenes of the Matrix. Also, the colors of the films are very different, which could fool people into thinking POC was better, since it has a more natural range of colors than the Matrix, by directorial intent in both cases.

But on equivalent scenes, the Matrix was a sharper transfer.

Also, when the action starts, the Matrix discs hold the picture together much better than POC.

So you own a BD player?

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wormraper

· #18 · May 25, 2007

lol, I can't comment on the Pirates movies yet, however I do notice that the people who seem to think that the Matrix isn't even in the same league as Pirates are the more "staunch" supporters of Blu Ray. To say that the Matrix trilogy wasn't that much more detailed than the DVD's is plain crazy. The first Matrix disc alone was a horrible encode. The 2nd and 3rd were pretty good but the HD version is many many times better than the DVD's.

beatboy77

· #19 · May 25, 2007

I am very surprised this is even a debate, although the Matrix movies were very well done POTC DMC is clearly better with PQ and AQ. There is a thread somewhere here on AVS which basically condenses most of the online reviews for the Pirates films and in this thread all professional reviewers said something along the lines that the Pirates films set the new standard in HD Optical for both PQ and AQ and that figured The MAtrix movies in to the equaltion as well. I will go as far as to say I feel Apocalypto was absolutely just as good as any of The Matrix films in terms of PQ as well.

~Josh

degas

· #20 · May 25, 2007

Like most polls on this forum - HD DVD boys vote for their format, BD-boys vote for theirs.

Doesn't matter what the films - or the questions - are.

Thus, polls like this are pretty much useless.

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