Originally Posted by Goingpoor /forum/post/18237052
Looking to upgrade my old Klipsch RW12 Sub With either Dual SVS PB12-Plus or a Single JL Audio Fathom F113... Looking for opinions ....
been doing alot of upgrades lately and this is one of the last things on list...
Originally Posted by Warpdrv /forum/post/18237705
you never mentioned what size room you have here... is it open to other area's...?
L x W x H = Cubic Feet
Also other related equipment would be helpful...
Originally Posted by mookie b /forum/post/18237676
The F113 is a smaller cabinet sealed sub where the SVS PB Ultra and Submersive are big ass ported ones.
If you have the room, and don't care so much about looks, the Ultra or Submersive are the way to go.
I personally went with a F113 because I needed a smaller physical cabinet size. Pretty happy with the choice so far....
Originally Posted by N.REED /forum/post/18240322
One PB12 Plus will have much more output down low than a F113, two of them will be very impressive.
Originally Posted by spyboy /forum/post/18242375
Ilkka's measurement of the F113 at 20 Hz yielded 101.3 db. This figure is 2 meter ground plane (outdoors).
The PB-12 Plus was tested by Sound&Vision's Brent Butterworth. In his test his measurements were done indoors in his listening rooms "sweet spot". In those conditions, the PB-12 Plus delivered 114.8 db at 20 Hz. Very strong output indeed.
How many dbs do you think you would have to add to the F113 to be consistent with the measured output of the PB-12 Plus given room gain?
I'm not saying the F113 would equal the PB-12 Plus at 20 Hz since the PB-12 Plus has its maximum output at 20 Hz while the F113 has its maximum output at 63 Hz, but with room gain at 20 Hz being substantial, the difference may not be all that great when both subs are measured the same way.