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Dukane 9115

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Hello Everyone

Has anyone seen the Dukane 9115 in action and/or compared it with the Hitachi 5500.
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They are the same, Hitachi made them for Dukane.
Fitz:


I don't know what the price difference is but if they are truly the same I recall that Dukane offers an excellent warranty on some of their projectors, something like 5 or 3 years. This is all based on hearsay - maybe someone else can speak up.
Dukane charges $1000 more for the 5 years warranty with 3 years loaner.
The are exactly the same. I would suspect that it is possible that the QC on the Dukane is higher and the warranty is different.


I had the Dukane in my house and while it said Dukane on the side when you turn it over it says Hitachi SX5500 or whatever the exact model number is.


John Moschella
Thanks for the info



Fitz
Originally posted by QQQ:


"I don't know what the price difference is but if they are truly the same I recall that Dukane offers an excellent warranty on some of their projectors, something like 5 or 3 years. This is all based on hearsay - maybe someone else can speak up."

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When I bought my Dukane 9015 D-ILA couple of years ago the warranty was supposed to be 5 years, with a three-year loaner term.


Recently I contacted Dukane about possible under-warranty work on my 9015 and while the loaner term is real, they said it was two years rather than three. I said...uh, uh...it's three. Better check it out, lady.

Anyway, the deal is if a user needs a loaner I believe he or she will have to pay freight both ways (plus freight for the "defective" unit). Some warranty...


-THTS
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YOU recently posted that you had a chance to look at a HITACHI 5500, with an htpc, i was curious as to what the htpc was set at(what output resolution were you sending into the HITACHI). THANKS.
Originally posted by MRJAZZZ:


"YOU recently posted that you had a chance to look at a HITACHI 5500, with an htpc, i was curious as to what the htpc was set at (what output resolution were you sending into the HITACHI)."

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As I noted in another thread, the HT-PC feeding the Hitachi 5500 display was set by the vendor to output 1365x1024; that is the rez output my friend, 35mm Man, indicated when he ordered what otherwise is a PC loaded with bunch of goodies, including the Radeon 7500 video card, which is equipped with a DVI output interface.


I have read elsewhere that there seems to be a problem of some sort with the 5500s when dealing with this resolution level, but I really didn't see it during the term I had the combo on loan (too short!).

Perhaps I wound up missing something since I was totally blown away by the sort of video imaging obtained via the DVI domain to pay attention to other things (though I didn't particularly cared using the gamma option, preferring viewing images through the film or cinema option once it was carefully calibrated via the VE and AVIA discs).

Am still reeling by that experience and haven't been happy with my own system ever since. I want my DVI!...


-THTS
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Dukane's warranty for the last 4 years (my brief time in the pj world) has been 5 years P&L, 2 yrs. loaner.
Sorry my mistake, memory lapse.

Dukane warranty is 5 years warranty with 2 years loaner.
http://www.dukane.com/AudioVisual/whatsnew/5yrwarr.htm
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What was the source material you were viewing on the DVI equipped PJ? I have a G11 with Rock+. Good transfers look stunning on it (at 11 ft wide!), while poor transfers look grainy, etc. While the picture is great in completley controlled situations, I am seriously considering upgrading to the G15 for increased light tolerance. All this talk about DVI has me wondering if this is the thing to do.


Did you view any relatively bad transfers? I'm probably reflecting my lack of understanding here, but how does DVI improve the quality of a crappy transfer? Or is so much lost in the D->A, A->D that anything is just humongously improved with DVI?
Originally posted by ham:


"What was the source material you were viewing on the DVI equipped PJ?"

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I viewed a variety of DVDs, including Gladiator (compared this one to an odd 35mm reel of the film version and the video gear feared quite well, though it was clearly deficient in the gray scale department; the 5500 needs to be calibrated to address such factors as correct color temperature -the image was too blue by comparison with the film sample- etc.), Superbit The Fifth Element (not a perfect transfer by any means!), Toy Story 2, and an Academy Awards DVD screener of Monsters, Inc. (the last two looked perfect! No EE...no artifacts of any kind...simply, incredibly, stunningly amazing!), Shrek, Ben-Hur, Lawrence Of Arabia and many more...

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"I have a G11 with Rock+. Good transfers look stunning on it (at 11 ft wide!), while poor transfers look grainy, etc. While the picture is great in completely controlled situations, I am seriously considering upgrading to the G15 for increased light tolerance. All this talk about DVI has me wondering if this is the thing to do."

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Well, your system is doing what is supposed to: resolve high and poor quality in the signal source! Yet the DVI route will exhibit greater accuracy in my opinion...

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"Did you view any relatively bad transfers? I'm probably reflecting my lack of understanding here, but how does DVI improve the quality of a crappy transfer? Or is so much lost in the D->A, A->D that anything is just humorously improved with DVI?"

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I didn't say DVI improves anything in the source, just that it resolves the video signal content more accurately, so great transfers will look even better while poor ones, well...will look even worse.

I think there is a definite loss occurring in the D-A, A-D process, so using DVI "cleans" things up (like if layers of sheer gauze have been lifted away)to a degree that the signal content can be displayed more accurately; we then can really see what the signal actually looks in its finished form...good, bad, of indifferent. Hope this helps...


-THTS
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I guess the question is whether there is anything DVI/HDCP equipped out there which has the potential of the G15 for contrast, color accuracy, grey scale, brightness and fill ratio.


If not, what solutions can be found for "legacy" PJs--eg how good could a converter box be for DVI/HDCP->RGBHV?
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Originally posted by ham
Q for Frank Manrique:


What was the source material you were viewing on the DVI equipped PJ? I have a G11 with Rock+. Good transfers look stunning on it (at 11 ft wide!), while poor transfers look grainy, etc. While the picture is great in completley controlled situations, I am seriously considering upgrading to the G15 for increased light tolerance. All this talk about DVI has me wondering if this is the thing to do.
You know, when I read May's issue of WSR regarding D-Cinema/Theater and DVI's 'dirty little secret', I'm not sure I can handle buying into DVI when absolutely no market standardization exists (three forms) and a maximum cable length of 6 feet is a joke.

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Did you view any relatively bad transfers? I'm probably reflecting my lack of understanding here, but how does DVI improve the quality of a crappy transfer? Or is so much lost in the D->A, A->D that anything is just humongously improved with DVI?
I would imagine it wouldn't! DVI only eliminates the digital-to-analog-to digital hurdle which can introduce artifacts.
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Originally posted by ham:


"I guess the question is whether there is anything DVI/HDCP equipped out there which has the potential of the G15 for contrast, color accuracy, grey scale, brightness and fill ratio.


If not, what solutions can be found for "legacy" PJs--eg how good could a converter box be for DVI/HDCP->RGBHV?"

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I am in the same boat as I, too, am looking for a way to interface DVI with my own display device (Dukane 9015 D-ILA); what DVI to RGB/VGA converter to choose is what still has me stumped.


Umm......I wonder what JVC do to outfit a G15-CL D-ILA unit with a DVI input, a machine they took to Wide Screen Review for U-571's D-5 clone/D-Theater comparison tests?...


-THTS
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Frank, go read the WideScreen Review's May issue regarding D-Theater/Cinema and the 'dirty little secret' regarding DVI. I was quite impressed when the JVC rep, and eveyone else at the presentation, knew little or nothing about DVI--accept for the 6-foot cable limitation! Doh!!!
Originally posted by WanMan:


"Frank, go read the WideScreen Review's May issue regarding D-Theater/Cinema and the 'dirty little secret' regarding DVI. I was quite impressed when the JVC rep, and eveyone else at the presentation, knew little or nothing about DVI--accept for the 6-foot cable limitation! Doh!!!"

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Been there...done that...Have read the article and understand the implications, which I did not know at the time I sampled the borrowed gear.


Btw, the length of the DVI interface between the PC and 5500 display was three feet, so the "limitation" didn't exist...


-THTS
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Frank, not sure about your last statement, but if it works for you kudos!
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