None that I know. There were some DAD discs that was released before the launch of the DVD-A format, that was accessable with DVD-V players, however all current release hi rez tracks on any disc be it dual disc or DVD-A, won't be readable to DVD-V machines.
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DVD-A releases that also had LPCM 96/24?
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I just checked it. It has 96/24 MLP surround for DVD-A players and 96/24 LPCM for DVD-V and DVD-A players. 
| Originally Posted by filper I'm pretty sure just 96/24 LPCM. It used to pass a 96/24 stereo signal from a DVD-V player to my receiver with showed 96 Khz... |
What did you want one with this feature for ?
What did you want one with this feature for ?
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Not that I wanted one, I was just involved in a debate over on another forum about wether or not DVD-As were capable of containing higher-res MLP stereo (beyond 96/24) as well as 96/24 LPCM stereo. I know they are, but I wasn't sure which titles from the early days may have been released as such. Obviously, there are the Classic HDADs, but those are all flipper discs.
| Originally Posted by filper What did you want one with this feature for ? |
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I'm not confusing anything. I know what MLP is, I use it to author DVD-As all the time - SurCode MLP - and I know there is no reason to use it other than to save space for extras and to fit a reasonable amount of material on in high-res surround. Without MLP, you can only get about 20 minutes of 96/24 surround on a DVD-A.
My question pertains to DVD-As where there was a high-res MLP stereo track (which is done all the time, necessary or not) for DVD-A players and a 96/24 LPCM track (non-MLP) for DVD-V players. The Neil Young stereo DVD-As come close in that they contain 176.4/24 MLP stereo (for DVD-A players) and 48/24 LPCM stereo (for DVD-V players). FWIW, there is a reason for DVD-A players regardless of whether you use MLP or not, and that is only DVD-A players can read and play anything higher than 96/24.
I hope this clarifies what exactly I know and what I'm asking.
| Originally Posted by thehun I think you confuse a couple of things here. MLP is only used for MC in order to make it fit on the disc. It is a compression method but it is lossless.[Meridian's Lossless Packing] For stereo tracks there is no reason to use it, however they are authored as such so it won't be "visible" to DVD-V players, otherwise why bother to make DVD-A players.There is also copyright issues. Hotel California has 192/24 stereo track reportedly. |
My question pertains to DVD-As where there was a high-res MLP stereo track (which is done all the time, necessary or not) for DVD-A players and a 96/24 LPCM track (non-MLP) for DVD-V players. The Neil Young stereo DVD-As come close in that they contain 176.4/24 MLP stereo (for DVD-A players) and 48/24 LPCM stereo (for DVD-V players). FWIW, there is a reason for DVD-A players regardless of whether you use MLP or not, and that is only DVD-A players can read and play anything higher than 96/24.
I hope this clarifies what exactly I know and what I'm asking.
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Hey Chris.
| Originally Posted by Chris Gerhard Of course the debate was with me and my point was that I think that 96kHz/24-bit LPCM stereo on a DVD-V makes more sense than high resolution DVD-A stereo and that I am not aware of even one disc ever that included high resolution 96/24 or above DVD-A stereo and 96/24 LPCM stereo on the same side. Only going to have one or the other, making it a DVD-V sure seems smart to me. I understand that DVD-A would be capable, just that it made no sense from a business standpoint to me to do so. I do not believe the capacity exists on DVD-A for 60 minutes of MLP 96/24 surround, Dolby Digital surround, MLP 96/24 stereo, and 96/24 LPCM stereo. Having MLP surround and 96/24 LPCM stereo sounds like a good idea if a DD or DTS surround mix could also be included. That would offer high resolution surround and high resolution stereo to owners of DVD-A players and would offer surround and high resolution stereo to owners of DVD-V players. The main issue of discussion was that it was my understanding that Neil Young started releasing 96/24 LPCM stereo discs and discontinued DVD-A stereo releases to reach the wider market and continue to offer his music in high resolution stereo. I have "On the Beach", DVD-A stereo and "Greatest Hits" and "Prairie Wind" both on DVD-V with 96/24 LPCM. I love all three and think all three sound excellent. I also have "Harvest", a surround DVD-A with MLP stereo. That is my favorite album of his and I love the DVD-A surround which might be my preference for all of his music. Give us high resolution surround and high resolution stereo, let us decide what to listen to. Unfortunately, "Harvest" was the only Neil Young surround DVD-A I like. His upcoming archive releases look like stereo DVD-V to me as well. Here is a link: http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/..._id=1003155579 I also asked what DVD-A's included 96/24 LPCM since I have a bunch of DVD-A's and don't own one that does. My disagreement with you centered around how to best release high resolution stereo. I think Neil has gotten it right, 96/24 LPCM DVD-V, plays in high resolution on most DVD players and offers excellent sound quality. Your preference was have a disc with above 96/24 DVD-A stereo and include 96/24 LPCM. I asked for even one example where that has been done on the same side of a DVD-A. Chris |
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First of all you don't need MLP for stereo 96/24 period, unless there is too many other soundtracks are in place as well.
This "table" shows this as well:
http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_8_4/dvd-benchmark-part-6-dvd-audio-11-2001.html#Meridian%20Lossless%20Packing%20(MLP)%20in%20a%20N utshell
| Originally Posted by GoldenBoy I'm not confusing anything. I know what MLP is, I use it to author DVD-As all the time - SurCode MLP - and I know there is no reason to use it other than to save space for extras and to fit a reasonable amount of material on in high-res surround. Without MLP, you can only get about 20 minutes of 96/24 surround on a DVD-A. My question pertains to DVD-As where there was a high-res MLP stereo track (which is done all the time, necessary or not) for DVD-A players and a 96/24 LPCM track (non-MLP) for DVD-V players. The Neil Young stereo DVD-As come close in that they contain 176.4/24 MLP stereo (for DVD-A players) and 48/24 LPCM stereo (for DVD-V players). FWIW, there is a reason for DVD-A players regardless of whether you use MLP or not, and that is only DVD-A players can read and play anything higher than 96/24. I hope this clarifies what exactly I know and what I'm asking. |
This "table" shows this as well:
http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_8_4/dvd-benchmark-part-6-dvd-audio-11-2001.html#Meridian%20Lossless%20Packing%20(MLP)%20in%20a%20N utshell
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