[zvampen]

Hi,


What I want to do is to record a disc directly from an AVID/Final cut editing station to a standalone DVD recorder? Via fire wire would be nice. The DVD disc is in most cases meant to be a master and then is going to be copied and played on common DVD home players. It could be rack mountable, but that is not a must.


Any ideas or directions where to look?

 

[Kabanero]

zvampen,


You can do this with Pioneer models that have FireWire. But I had problems between my WinXP PC, Vegas 5 and Pioneer 220S. Some other users reported that they could not do that either. So I returned it and bought JVC DR-M10S.


I load AVI clips into Vegas timeline, do my editing. Then I use "Print to tape" feature to record directly to JVC vie FireWire. Works like a charm.


I never tried AVID/Final Cut, but I gues it should work.

 

[zvampen]

Aha, so it autostarts and buffers to the internal hard drive and then begins a live DV->MPEG-2 reencode and then starts the burning in real time? This would be perfect for us if it works. Any other models that is recommended by you folks?

 

[Kabanero]

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Aha, so it autostarts and buffers to the internal hard drive and then begins a live DV->MPEG-2 reencode and then starts the burning in real time?

Exactly.


After editing on timeline when I start "Print to tape" feature and select "Device Control", Vegas renders only edited parts to temporary AVI files on hard drive (using original AVIs for the video that was not edited), then autamatically starts recording on JVC, and then stops recording when timeline is finished.


I am not sure that you can do it with any other brand and model.

 

[SBrudzinsky]

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Originally posted by Kabanero .... I am not sure that you can do it with any other brand and model.

Panasonic DMR E-60 does it the same way, but I'm second for JVC DR-M10. My thought is if you dealing with MAC or PC-based editing then there is no point to use external stand-alone DVD video recorder. I would rather use DVD burner.

 

[zvampen]

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there is no point to use external stand-alone DVD video recorder. I would rather use DVD burner.

The thing with a DVD recorder is that you can skip the encoding process of the MPEG-2 file, which easily takes hours for just 15 minutes of video (on a fast P4 or Xeon system without hardware support). If it was a fast process to encode the MPEG-2 file a DVD burner on the same system would be totally ok.


I don't know if I got it right, but does the DVD recorder convert from DV-encoded avi to MPEG-2 on the fly?

And will these DVD:s be playable on a standard DVD player?

Does it write on a DVD-R disc?

 

[Kabanero]

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Originally posted by zvampen ... does the DVD recorder convert from DV-encoded avi to MPEG-2 on the fly?

Yes.


Stand alone DVD recorders encode any incoming video to MPEG-2 in real time (on the fly) using hardware MPEG encoder chip.

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And will these DVD:s be playable on a standard DVD player? Does it write on a DVD-R disc?

Yes.


Panasonic and JVC record to DVD-Rs, which will be playable on standard DVD players.

 

[TonyW79SFV]

Pioneer's PRV-LX1 industrial DVD recorder is rack-mountable and the only one I can think of that has SDI in/out for dubbing from Digital Betacam/Betacam SX tapes, along with analog component video input for Betacam SP. If FireWire is all you need, most consumer DVD recorders with IEEE-1394 ports will fit the bill.

Pioneer PRV-LX1

 

[zvampen]

How is the quality of the final DVD? Will a software computer encode of an MPEG-2 file render much better results than the real time encoding chip in the DVD recorder?

 

[OARDVD]

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Originally posted by zvampen How is the quality of the final DVD?

Most people seem to feel that the MPEG encoders in modern DVD recorders produce excellent results in XP (1hr mode) & good results in SP (2hr). Lower quality modes are not so successful.


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Will a software computer encode of an MPEG-2 file render much better results than the real time encoding chip in the DVD recorder?

It depends on the quality mode selected on the DVD recorder (see above) and what software MPEG encoder you use. DVD recorders are capable of producing very good quality rendering. There’s no doubt that professional multi-pass software encoders produce the best results but they are expensive and do not operate in real-time.