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I've attempted to rip several different DVDs that I own. I'm just getting my hands wet, right now. However, when I rip a DVD via DVDDecryptor or DVD Shrink, I get a list of .vob files and whatnot. However, when I try and watch these movie files, I get no sound. What am I doing wrong? Do I need go in and rip the audio again? From what I recall, I already had the audio streams checked in DVD Shrink and DVD Decryptor...


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We need more information. Are you ripping in the files mode, and are you ripping ALL of the files? How are you viewing the rip (with what program)? Are you making sure that you are keeping at least one audio track? Remember that checkmarks represent the streams that you keep, not the ones that will be stripped.


***Edit: I see that you said that you think you had audio streams checked. We just need a more detailed explanantion of your procedures.
 

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Bob,


Thanks for the prompt response. I have attempted to view the files through PowerDVD 4.0, ShowShifter and Divx Player. All show video but no sound. Yes, I have sound working and enabald on my computer as I can listen to music and other dvds without a problem: ripped DVDs don't give me sound.


I ripped American Psycho as a test, I got these files:


Volume in drive C has no label.

Volume Serial Number is 38A5-99C9


Directory of C:\\Documents and Settings\\Navid\\My Documents\\DVDs\\American Psycho


09/21/2003 12:43 PM .

09/21/2003 12:43 PM ..

09/21/2003 12:43 PM 0 files.txt

09/21/2003 10:05 AM 22,528 VIDEO_TS.BUP

09/21/2003 10:05 AM 22,528 VIDEO_TS.IFO

09/21/2003 09:38 AM 44,431,360 VIDEO_TS.VOB

09/21/2003 10:05 AM 18,432 VTS_01_0.BUP

09/21/2003 10:05 AM 18,432 VTS_01_0.IFO

09/21/2003 09:38 AM 20,480 VTS_01_0.VOB

09/21/2003 09:38 AM 10,240 VTS_01_1.VOB

09/21/2003 10:05 AM 18,432 VTS_02_0.BUP

09/21/2003 10:05 AM 18,432 VTS_02_0.IFO

09/21/2003 09:42 AM 681,811,968 VTS_02_1.VOB

09/21/2003 10:05 AM 79,872 VTS_03_0.BUP

09/21/2003 10:05 AM 79,872 VTS_03_0.IFO

09/21/2003 09:42 AM 8,312,832 VTS_03_0.VOB

09/21/2003 09:49 AM 1,073,739,776 VTS_03_1.VOB

09/21/2003 09:55 AM 1,073,739,776 VTS_03_2.VOB

09/21/2003 10:02 AM 1,073,739,776 VTS_03_3.VOB

09/21/2003 10:05 AM 491,233,280 VTS_03_4.VOB

09/21/2003 10:05 AM 14,336 VTS_04_0.BUP

09/21/2003 10:05 AM 14,336 VTS_04_0.IFO

09/21/2003 10:05 AM 8,173,568 VTS_04_1.VOB

21 File(s) 4,455,520,256 bytes

2 Dir(s) 25,144,999,936 bytes free


I basically left all the default checks for DVD Shrink. I did not even compress (no need to with AP)... I did observe the checkmarks for the audio streams (all of which I left checked). So I'm not sure where I could have gone wrong. Hopefully the file list can make it more apparent.


Again; thanks for the quick response. I really appreciate it.

-- Navid
 

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Ok, here's two things you can do to narrow down the problem:


Open VTS_03_0.IFO of your rip in IfoEdit 0.95 (freeware) and take a look at the audio streams present. Under the heading "Titleset (Movie) attributes" you will find a list of the video, audio, and subtitle streams that exist in your rip. Verify that you did indeed include the audio streams, and if so, what streams are present. If you find no audio streams, then you did something wrong in the ripping process and you will need to rip again.


If you find that audio streams are there as you intended, then close IfoEdit and open PowerDVD. Go to "open DVD file on hard disc drive" and point it to VIDEO_TS.IFO in the rip directory. Play the file, and once you have the movie running, then right click on the overlay window and make sure to check "show information" in the menu. PowerDVD will now show you information regarding the video and audio that is playing. If you see a message like "no audio" or "unknown audio" then we need to find out why PowerDVD can not find the track. If PowerDVD is reporting audio (like "Dolby Digital 5.1 448Kbps") then PowerDVD is properly receiving the audio information and you have problems elsewhere in your system. Post the results of these tests and then we'll go from there. :)
 

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Bob,


Thanks a lot for your detailed information and help. I really appreciate it. I went ahead and installed IfoEdit and loaded up the file you suggested.


Under the title set, I got this:


Title Set (Movie) attirbutes:

Video: MPEG-2 720x480 (NTSC) (NTSC 525/60) (16:9) (letterboxed)

Audio 1: English (Dolby AC-3) 6ch 48Kbps DRC normal (ID: 0x80)

Audio 2: Français (Dolby AC-3) 6ch 48Kbps DRC normal (ID: 0x81)

SubPicture 1: English (2-bit rle) (ID: 0x20,0x21)


Then, I went loaded up PowerDVD and turned on Show Information. They showed up as 'Dolby Digital 5.1' and I could hear it no problem! The movie was perfect.


I have no idea what was wrong except it does not player in the Divx Player (no sound), but in PowerDVD I now have sound. To ease my curiousity, I headed over to ShowShifter (as an alternative to myHTPC) and the sound does not work there.


So, I'm glad at least I can playback the ripped DVDs via PowerDVD... so I feel more confident in my ripping skills, but I'm a little bummed about the front-end UI not working for me as I was really interested in making it gf-friendly...


Again, thanks a lot for your help Bob. I realy appreciate it!

-- Navid
 

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Hi Navid,


From the information you provided from IfoEdit, I am happy to confirm that your rips are just fine. :)


You must have some sort of sound card/UI issues with the other programs, but unfortunately that is not my area of expertise. Good luck and happy ripping!


P.S. - You might want to check out this thread for more detailed and up to date information on ripping:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...hreadid=299984
 

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I used to have a problem with no sound when ripping (file mode) to HD. (using both DvdDecrypter and SmartRipper). Both of these programs rip only the main movie by default. I solved the problem by selecting all files and ripping. After that you need to play the video_ts.ifo file. if you try playing a list of .vob files instead, you will sometimes not have sound.
 

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That is correct! Never, I repeat NEVER, rip in the movie only mode. Use either all files or ISO mode, and then reduce the size of the rip afterward with your tool of choice.
 

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DVD Shrink is able to rip the movie only, and in one pass too. Works just fine, you can even strip out the unwanted audio streams. When you're done you have video_ts.ifo file and a few VOBs that work just like a normal DVD. They're supposed to be ready to be burned to DVD and play in a STB (I haven't tried since I don't have a burner.


Also, a lot of people seem to avoid DVDShrink like the plague, I'm guessing because of the "shrink" but it does have a "No Compression" option that results in an unaltered copy (except for stream stripping and stuff). I've used this on quite a few disks and can't see a reason to go back to the ripper+IFOEdit approach. But if you just want to rip the whole DVD, DVD Decrypter in file mode is a little more streamlined process.


And one more thing, always play a dvd by playing the video_ts.ifo, my experience has been that by playing the vobs you loose all the chapter stops as well.
 

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stanger89, rather than repeat the same info all over again, please read the thread I linked to in an earlier post. That thread addresses several points you have made and is well worth the time spent (or at least I think so :) ).
 
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