[DVD] The Black List

All of these if available in DVHS or DTheater will be superior in every respect to the DVD including black reproduction


The whole movie Underworld

The attack scene on Helion IV in Chronicles or Riddick

Warehouse shoot out in Road to Perdition

Crash scene in Cast Away

The last chapter in 42nd Street

The night desert chase scene in Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid

The original Friday the 13th the whole movie after nightfall


I'll think of some more.......................................

I don't have the chapter names but:


Finding Nemo - Blackout and chase scene with the angler fish just after the chapter with the sharks in the sub.

Kill Bill 2 - The coffin scene after she is buried alive.

AVP - Alien vs Predator - Most of the movie.

Ghost Dog - First 20 minutes or so.

The Ninth Gate - The opening credits.


I would say that the somewhat unknown one that CRT owners should check out is that opening to "The Ninth Gate". The others seem to mostly be known around here.


I don't think I've seen it on a CRT, but the early part of "Master and Commander" should lend itself well to them. I believe chapter 2 is a good one.


--Darin

Yeah, Fight Club was always too dark on my TVs. But the added detail of crt makes the film better.


Kill Bill 1+2 are also good.


Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas is dark. My dvd copy is not very new so the transfer was not great.


The Doors is good. Dark scenes all over the place.


I saw Van Helsing(damn netflix). Not a very good movie but a lot of great dark scenes. good sp effects too.

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As far as being able to sit close and do the blacks I pretty much agree. However, I think a lot of the dark scenes in this one have quite a bit of ANSI CR elements to them. I'm trying to think of scenes, but I remember testing some on my Sharp 11k and thinking it did pretty well with the blacks in most of what I tested. Like panning up the side of the house at night, and a lot of other dark scenes. The scene where Brad Pitt holds the gun to the shop owner's head probably has darker sky on most CRTs, but most of the rest of it looked pretty good to me from this standpoint. The only blackout I remember is a very short one just before Brad Pitt picks up the phone (and this one has a white flash in it with ANSI CR elements and also being black doesn't seem to be important). I thought that the scene with Brad Pitt riding the bike around the inside of the house looked pretty 3 dimensional on the 11k. I'll take another look at some of this later. Did you try this one on the Qualia? How far was it from being right? I don't remember trying it on there, but the 11k has better CR. BTW: We can take it to email if you want.


Back to the dark list, I know one of your favorites is the very beginning of "Daredevil". I watched the opening of "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" tonight and it had some very dark city stuff with rain and snow coming down that probably would have looked very good on a CRT. "28 Days Later" had some very dark stuff. "Ghost Ship" about 20 minutes in when they enter the ship is extremely dark.


--Darin

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You know Darin, you probably are right. This is a very dark very contrasty film but I bet many of the scenes that are dark are more ANSI than on off tests. I'm trying to off hand remember any that weren't and I can't. Doesn't your Sharp have something like 2.5x the on off CR of a Qualia ?


Art

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I would say it is around 2x. I checked out some stuff last night on the HD2K and there are some scenes like down in the basement where they are very dark. The first time they go down there it looks like a good scene for testing shadow detail (before the lights go on), but I haven't checked it out completely. I'm not sure of the chapter or anything, but I'm guessing it is 5-10 minutes after the first time Brad Pitt and Ed Norton fight.


I'm considering getting a Yamaha DPX-1200 (if I can get a smoking deal through a friend) and then maybe we could try this with the G70 again, including "Fight Club" this time. Some Yamaha advantages over the Sharp are that it should have a little more on/off CR than the 11k (with the DC3), more lumens at that CR, an HDMI input (can accept YCbCr), slightly less SDE, possibly less rainbows (DC3 again), faster mirrors, color calibration to get the primaries right on for both SD colorspace and HD colorspace and then the ability to choose between those colorspaces based on the material. One difference this time is that I think I would find a way to bring a screen with me instead of using a screen that has been chosen for the CRT. The Firehawk is probably what I would bring if I could figure out a way, since I'm thinking that would probably be a good screen choice with that projector.


The digital may look good with these "Fight Club" scenes by itself, but testing with a CRT would be a good test, IMO.


--Darin

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WSR measured the following modified ANSI CR:

Sharp 12k 700:1

Qualia 04 234:1

JVC HD2k 66:1

IIRC LC CRTs are ~ 100 to 125:1

non-LC can be
You own all three pjs, and with your velvet draped black room you might have the best residential environment on the planetto discern intrascene CR differences. Are you seeing intrascene CR differences that would correlate with the measured ANSI CR of the 3 pjs?