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Yes, PMCs have always had great bass, considering their footprint. I haven't traditionally loved their use of a dome midrange driver but who knows, the twenty5 may blow me away!



They're set up next to an inexpensive pair of Wharfedales; the Diamond 250s to be precise.
Would you mind PMing me a comparison between the 2 speakers in the? The Wharfedale and x38s. Thanks
 

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Would you mind PMing me a comparison between the 2 speakers in the? The Wharfedale and x38s. Thanks
OMG can't believe I had not even seen the Wharfedale next to X-38. :eek:
 

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OMG can't believe I had not even seen the Wharfedale next to X-38. :eek:
And with all due respect to Clyde's pictures, I think those are the 230s as the 240 & 250 would have 4 grills since they have are 3-ways with a tweeter, a mid and 2 woofers.
 

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And with all due respect to Clyde's pictures, I think those are the 230s as the 240 & 250 would have 4 grills since they have are 3-ways with a tweeter, a mid and 2 woofers.
I do believe you are spot on, regardless it is the 200 series.
 

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I hope i don't offend anyone by talking about "other" speakers on the Dyn thread,but i was a little sad to see the Neat sx1's go back,after a brief 5 day demo...very musical speaker,and a great match with my gear.I could easily live with those long term...but the next contender to win me over is in the house,Canadian made Taksim reference 3a's,i said they are BIG ,but wow,have not unboxed them yet,here is a pic of them sitting on my granite slabs,where the Neats sat for a few days,still waiting on a release date on the Contour c 20's....meantime,the demo's continue.:)


Are these speakers made of granite or something ?


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And with all due respect to Clyde's pictures, I think those are the 230s as the 240 & 250 would have 4 grills since they have are 3-ways with a tweeter, a mid and 2 woofers.
Yes, you're absolutely right. My brain was fried when I stated that they were the 250s.

As for a brief side by side impression of the two, it's not a fair comparison.

The Wharfedales are a standout at the sub-$1000 price point for their excellent fit, finish, attention to detail, and revealing sound. In all honesty, I like them better than the famed ELAC F5s, which is saying something!

The X38s are on another level altogether (as they should be for 5x the price). The overall cohesiveness of the sound, the tautness and authority of the bottom end, the sweet yet never overcooked midrange, the wonderful sense of space they create, it's all just a giant leap over an entry level speaker like the Wharfedale.
 

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Yes, you're absolutely right. My brain was fried when I stated that they were the 250s.

As for a brief side by side impression of the two, it's not a fair comparison.

The Wharfedales are a standout at the sub-$1000 price point for their excellent fit, finish, attention to detail, and revealing sound. In all honesty, I like them better than the famed ELAC F5s, which is saying something!

The X38s are on another level altogether (as they should be for 5x the price). The overall cohesiveness of the sound, the tautness and authority of the bottom end, the sweet yet never overcooked midrange, the wonderful sense of space they create, it's all just a giant leap over an entry level speaker like the Wharfedale.
I totally get that! I'm always just kinda looking for what I could put in the kids living room as an amazing bang for $ speaker to do a small build. Wharfedale, Totem usually are at the top of my list because they have cheaper offerings, and I want something similar but different then my Focus 260s. Looking for warm, musical, like my bedroom Dali speakers, but again different; I tried a pair of paradigms but sold them, I wasn't a fan after a few weeks. Just haven't been able to really hear a Wharfedale speakers so since I've heard the excites a comparison would be nice so I can gauge them.

I think a 210 or 220 review vs the X14s would be my real desire. Since that would more likely be my price range for speakers in that room anyways.

Thank you!
 

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I totally get that! I'm always just kinda looking for what I could put in the kids living room as an amazing bang for $ speaker to do a small build. Wharfedale, Totem usually are at the top of my list because they have cheaper offerings, and I want something similar but different then my Focus 260s. Looking for warm, musical, like my bedroom Dali speakers, but again different; I tried a pair of paradigms but sold them, I wasn't a fan after a few weeks. Just haven't been able to really hear a Wharfedale speakers so since I've heard the excites a comparison would be nice so I can gauge them.

I think a 210 or 220 review vs the X14s would be my real desire. Since that would more likely be my price range for speakers in that room anyways.

Thank you!
Wharfedale's sound signature falls somewhere in between Paradigm and Dali IMO, which is to say that it's close to neutral. It won't be quite as smooth as the Dyns, but it should be surprisingly revealing for the money. At USD$699 , there's not many other options as handsomely finished as the Diamond series.
 

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Yes, you're absolutely right. My brain was fried when I stated that they were the 250s.

As for a brief side by side impression of the two, it's not a fair comparison.

The Wharfedales are a standout at the sub-$1000 price point for their excellent fit, finish, attention to detail, and revealing sound. In all honesty, I like them better than the famed ELAC F5s, which is saying something!

The X38s are on another level altogether (as they should be for 5x the price). The overall cohesiveness of the sound, the tautness and authority of the bottom end, the sweet yet never overcooked midrange, the wonderful sense of space they create, it's all just a giant leap over an entry level speaker like the Wharfedale.
I totally get that! I'm always just kinda looking for what I could put in the kids living room as an amazing bang for $ speaker to do a small build. Wharfedale, Totem usually are at the top of my list because they have cheaper offerings, and I want something similar but different then my Focus 260s. Looking for warm, musical, like my bedroom Dali speakers, but again different; I tried a pair of paradigms but sold them, I wasn't a fan after a few weeks. Just haven't been able to really hear a Wharfedale speakers so since I've heard the excites a comparison would be nice so I can gauge them.

I think a 210 or 220 review vs the X14s would be my real desire. Since that would more likely be my price range for speakers in that room anyways.

Thank you!
Get a pair of used XEO 3 or 5 and call it a day. Add an AAM and bluray player and your done.
 

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Just to clarify, the equipment we use, whether at the factory or at shows, isn't an endorsement that these brands are "the best", or even the best match. We are showing various products as examples of equipment that could be used, and although we would not use equipment that we expect to deliver poor results, often the choice has to do with who we have various arrangements with. And we are not going to use the same equipment forever. Fortunately there are plenty of good electronics outthere to choose from.

Note that the equipment we use for demoing is not necessarily reflective of what we use for tuning. In the tuning phase we listen on various electronics, but we don't design the speakers to work optimally with a specific brand or type of amplifier. We design the speakers to be simple loads for the amplifier, which means that we will make the most of the amp, even with amps that could struggle with difficult loads.
Y'all must still have some arbiter electronics around!?
 

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I totally get that! I'm always just kinda looking for what I could put in the kids living room as an amazing bang for $ speaker to do a small build. Wharfedale, Totem usually are at the top of my list because they have cheaper offerings, and I want something similar but different then my Focus 260s. Looking for warm, musical, like my bedroom Dali speakers, but again different; I tried a pair of paradigms but sold them, I wasn't a fan after a few weeks. Just haven't been able to really hear a Wharfedale speakers so since I've heard the excites a comparison would be nice so I can gauge them.

I think a 210 or 220 review vs the X14s would be my real desire. Since that would more likely be my price range for speakers in that room anyways.

Thank you!
The 210 don't have enough extension to use on their own unless you would use them with a sub. The 220 have slightly more but not near the level of the x-14, the Mites actually go lower but are certainly more expensive if purchased new. The Mites are also a bit colored but nonetheless very musical but if you could find a used pair of Rainmakers in white I think you should consider them.
 

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Thanks everyone for the suggestions. I gave it a listen today, I think I know what dead silence is now ;) But I do not think I heard anything new out of my Onix Ref 1s on the H300...

The seller suggested I take the amp to an authorized Hegel repair shop to have it examined and repaired if needed and he will reimburse the cost. I might take up on that offer, however the closest Hegel dealer is 1 hour away without the horrendous LA traffic :(.

Here are more photos of the amp: http://imgur.com/a/GfoK8
 

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Might be worth it if he pays for the repairs, since you could end up with what's basically a factory refurb with him covering the cost.
 
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Might be worth it if he pays for the repairs, since you could end up with what's basically a factory refurb with him covering the cost.
Yeahnot a bad idea I think considering what we see in the pictures the unit looks super clean besides that knob issue, maybe worth the repair after all.
 

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Yeahnot a bad idea I think considering what we see in the pictures the unit looks super clean besides that knob issue, maybe worth the repair after all.


Take the faceplate off and have a look ? I wonder if it's an encoder or an actual pot.. Looks super easy to fix.


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